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Old 11-04-2013, 03:26 PM
 
Location: Philadelphia Area
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Most people don't understand that the government can't just print money forever so they think the government has unlimited funds.
They're just observing their government and taking lessons from it. Apparently the government doesn't understand your point either.
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Old 11-04-2013, 03:31 PM
 
Location: Philadelphia Area
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Exactly... and most also believe when you default that the debt goes into some big black hole never to be seen again, since they no longer consider themselves owing it.... oh... it just went into the "bad debt column on someone's balance sheet."
Once again, "Monkey see. Monkey do."

"Who's the more foolish? The fool or the fool that follows him?" Obi-Wan "Ben" Kenobi, "Star Wars"
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Old 11-04-2013, 03:41 PM
 
Location: Barrington
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The earned income tax credit (EITC), first proposed in the early 1970s, was signed by President Ford. It was later substantially expanded by President Reagan, who deemed it “the best anti-poverty, the best pro-family, the best job creation measure to come out of Congress

The first food stamp program was implemented in 1939. Over the next 4 years 20 million benefitted from this program. The first retailer caught defrauding the program was nailed in 1939. The program ended when the conditions that created it ended, food surplus and widespread unemployment.

Despite the prosperity of the 50's, 25% of the people lived in dire poverty. Pilot food stamps programs reemerged with sunset provisions.

By the mid 60's the sunset provision had been eliminated. The program has been continuously reformed, since then.

The Federal Housing Assistance Program was created during the Great Depression.
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Old 11-04-2013, 03:43 PM
 
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Exactly... and most also believe when you default that the debt goes into some big black hole never to be seen again, since they no longer consider themselves owing it.... oh... it just went into the "bad debt column on someone's balance sheet."
Hell, just look at all the idiots running around in this place.....they don't give a damn if they're spending someone else's cash or not.

It's indicative of what's out there today....and their pathetic mentality.
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Old 11-04-2013, 03:51 PM
 
Location: Barrington
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When people decided to make a career out of menial jobs like flipping burgers or stocking shelves at a grocery store.
The majority of the people, you know the masses, have historically been employed in low skill jobs. For a period in time, the unions lifted some of the masses onto the lower rungs of middle class. It was entirely possible for some manufacturing workers to earn enough to buy a modest home and support a family, despite that the worker was employed on an assembly line.

Global competition and then technology changed all that.
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Old 11-04-2013, 03:52 PM
 
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People have become lazy and believe they are owed the hand outs.

There is a difference from someone what truly needs a TEMPORARY helping hand and someone who spends years on some form of welfare.
So all those senior citizens that have to use it, they're all lazy & believe they are owed hand-outs?

How about you provide some stats letting us know who the average person is that is on welfare & the percentages? Thanks.
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Old 11-04-2013, 03:59 PM
 
Location: Barrington
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Great question OP. I'm also wondering when did it become acceptable for tax payers to support people in third world countries like Iraq and Afghanistan. Trillions of dollars are going to hospitals, health, food, schools, infrastructure, etc. Conservatives never complain about this and even defend it. It's just international welfare and I don't like my taxes going towards it.
The Defense lobby is very powerful. How much of this foreign aid is in the form of military aid? This aid turns into contracts for military equipment made in the U.S. which employs a heck of a lot of people. Cut military aid off and it eliminates a heck of a lot of jobs and interim profit taking.

Big Pharma is another powerful lobby. The U.S. provides many third world nations with medical aid in the form of medicine produced by Big Pharma which employs a lot of people. Cut the medical aid and a lot of jobs become eliminated as does the interim profit taking.
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Old 11-04-2013, 04:04 PM
 
Location: Barrington
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The trend towards part time jobs began in the 60's. By the mid 80's retail and food services had become the largest employment sectors. Retail and food services have historically trended part time because of scheduling flexibility, to avoid paying OT and benefits.

Most in these fields do not know their schedules more than a week in advance which makes it a tad challenging to patch together multiple part time jobs.
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Old 11-04-2013, 04:05 PM
 
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There has been a lot of stories in the news about how much the taxpayers are paying to subsidize the lifestyle of the working poor. I have relatives (husband and wife) who both work full time but get the following taxpayer benefits:

Food Stamps
Reduced cost for the kids lunches at school
Section Eight Housing
Subsidy for Utilities
Earned Income Tax Credit
Medicaid

Put me back into the 1950s and 1960s and the family is a member of the working poor, low skills, just a high school graduate, and both the husband and wife are working full time. Did these programs exist back then and were the taxpayers supporting their lifestyle and poor life choices?

When did all these programs to support the working poor start? Your thoughts.
When folks started deciding that "living life" was more important than supporting yourself. It's called being selfish.
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Old 11-04-2013, 04:07 PM
 
Location: Just transplanted to FL from the N GA mountains
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deciding that "living life" was more important than supporting yourself. .
I've managed to do both. Although with each passing law and administration that's getting harder and harder....
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