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Who is the most disingenuous politician always spinning the truth, lying, lying about lies, telling half-truths, distorting, flip flopping, and etc...???
I would have to go with Flip Flop Romney.
While Obama preached one thing, and once elected did totally the opposite, Romney was flip flopping all over before he even got out of the gate. I mean does anyone even know what the man stood for, other than saying anything to get elected?
Suffice to say, he would have been as bad as Obama, but starting from his campaign all they way to the end of office.
Yes, he followed Bush's plan. Except Obama tried to extend Bush's plan and then left FAR MORE troops behind - some of which have become casualties. Bush had planned on being out...Obama's version of out is with 29,000 paid people left behind in harm's way - some doing counter insurgent measures risking their lives!!!
I don't think you can readily judge this stuff without knowing the person and being around them.
Like with Romney for example. He did change from the time when he was a liberal Republican gov. to his 2012 where he campaigned pretty far right. But how do you know whether he was being disingenuous, or just went through a sincere conversion? Actually Romney ran to the right in the primary, and stayed right in the general. Nixon said that you run right in the primaries, and back to the middle in the general. If Romney had been disingenuous, would he not have followed that advice?
I didn't vote but John Edwards would have to be near the top. He made a fortune suing docs and built a mansion so opulent that campaign aides had to come up with ways to defend it in 2004. Edwards takes heat over lavish estate - politics | NBC News
When the mistress scandal hit, he was planning a massive anti-poverty crusade modeled on Al Gore's global warning crusade, at least until he could snag another gig in DC. Absolute flim-flam artist.
The fact that Obama has more votes than Cheney, and W is currently standing strong at "zero," proves that there are far too many idiots in this country.
I don't believe that they are disingenious necessarily. I don't believe that the sincerely set out to lie because ALL lies are eventually caught...why expose your credibility willingly? Theres no incentive in it. George HW Bush clearly didn't mean to break his "No New Taxes" promise. GWB had good reason to believe that Iraq had WMD's...hell even Sadaam's generals reported carrying gas masks secretly because they just didn't know what he had. And lastly, I don't believe that Obama sincerely believed that many American's would lose their insurance......I think a better argument could be made that they are all naive.
The truly disingenious people...the real liars are the individuals responsible for actually crafting the policy. The presidents and other figures are just the Public Relations and salespeople of the policy.
The only problem with what you said is that O and the Dems DID know that many Americans would lose their insurance. They knew. And they were not forthcoming. (There, how was that for PC?) They lied to everyone.
We don't have to be mind readers, they have admitted it!
The fact that Obama has more votes than Cheney, and W is currently standing strong at "zero," proves that there are far too many idiots in this country.
Perhaps a sign of idiocy is assuming that your party's chief liar currently lying frequently in the highest office deserves less attention then a never-was president that is out of office.
Perhaps a sign of idiocy is assuming that your party's chief liar currently lying frequently in the highest office deserves less attention then a never-was president that is out of office.
... and whose lies got us into two ongoing conflicts, effecting many thousands of American veterans and their families, to say nothing of the people who live in the countries that those wars were waged in.
Also: Obama is not "my party's chief liar;" he's far too conservative for me...
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