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Old 11-22-2013, 11:37 PM
 
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Who cares? Animals kill each other all the time. It's the circle of life. Get over it. Anyone want some chicken?
I mean who cars about your health! Eating sick and abused animals is not healthy as those factory farms are filled with disease. But who cares right?
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Old 11-23-2013, 01:35 AM
 
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Who cares? Animals kill each other all the time. It's the circle of life. Get over it. Anyone want some chicken?
There is a difference in nature where they are free to roam without restrictions.
And...
Being abused daily by people who are suppose to be giving them a good quality of life for the time they are alive. Not gouging out their eyes and other horrific things that cause pain and suffering.
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Old 11-23-2013, 06:36 AM
 
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Who cares? Animals kill each other all the time. It's the circle of life. Get over it. Anyone want some chicken?
Here's the difference, this is what happens naturally. It should not be natural for a person to be torturing and killing that's WRONG!

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No thanks on the chicken. But I'd watch a few christians get tossed to the lions. Who cares though, it's the circle of life.
You must believe in hurting those not involved! Nice!
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Old 11-23-2013, 08:35 AM
 
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Here's the difference, this is what happens naturally. It should not be natural for a person to be torturing and killing that's WRONG!



You must believe in hurting those not involved! Nice!
Which part of human activity is not part of the nature?
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Old 11-23-2013, 08:38 AM
 
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This post I have to say I do agree with you on......getting people to stop being stupid is hard to do.

American Kennel Club linked to 100 abused dogs in Washington | Global Animal

Then we have the backyard breeders breeding as fast as they can to make a fighting dog or the next popular dog. It's all sad to think as a society we've really not advanced much in the cruelty towards others and things around us department.
However, somehow all those are morally superior to someone punching a dog.

Just think about those dogs born with genetic problems due to forced inbred, all for the purpose of breeding a particular species.

But I am sure that's morally superior as long as I dress up my own chiwawa in some pink sweater that no dog in the world would ever voluntarily wear!
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Old 11-23-2013, 08:56 AM
 
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There is a difference in nature where they are free to roam without restrictions.
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Being abused daily by people who are suppose to be giving them a good quality of life for the time they are alive. Not gouging out their eyes and other horrific things that cause pain and suffering.
Pumping them full of antibiotics and growth hormones are not natural either, to say nothing of the rush of fear and stress hormones that flow through the animals as they are being abused or awaiting slaughter, which then suffuse their meat. And humans then consume all of this every time they eat a hamburger or a piece of chicken.

I couldn't watch the video in the OP. I turned vegetarian more than 20 years ago after seeing similar things. Very sad that in that 20 years, things have only gotten worse for the animals who are warehoused on these big factory farms--chickens packed into tiny cages living their entire lives without ever touching the ground; calves chained in cages so narrow they cannot move, so the veal is tender; geese being force fed three times a day to produce foie gras. It goes on and on and on.

You can tell a lot about a society by the way it treats its animals. What do these inhumane factory farms say about us?
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Old 11-23-2013, 08:59 AM
 
Location: Bella Vista, Ark
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Why don't we just pass a bill making eating any meat illegal. That would satisfy all the Vegans and PETA members I guess...Geeze, pretty soon nothing will be legal. Let's push for less sodium, outlaw Trans fats, cut the legal drinking level to 0.00.00 and God only know what else, but make sure we make drugs legal. What are we coming to anyway???
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Old 11-23-2013, 09:07 AM
 
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Why don't we just pass a bill making eating any meat illegal. That would satisfy all the Vegans and PETA members I guess...Geeze, pretty soon nothing will be legal. Let's push for less sodium, outlaw Trans fats, cut the legal drinking level to 0.00.00 and God only know what else, but make sure we make drugs legal. What are we coming to anyway???
So you're okay with all the antibiotics and growth hormones in your food? You have no problem with the cruel and inhumane treatment of animals? You see no reason for humans to treat animals in a humane fashion?

No one is trying to outlaw meat, so cut the histrionics. But if you see no problem with the horrible treatment of the animals you eat, it says more about you than about vegans or PETA. What are we coming to, indeed.

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Old 11-23-2013, 09:20 AM
 
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Which part of human activity is not part of the nature?
The mean and violent part should be.........every animal has the ability to live and end it's life in a humane way, if humans give the right care. I've known butchers and ranchers none of them would put up with this kind of treatment of their livestock.


Prison time and hard labor for these kinds of crimes, including abuse of women and children are better than fines and a slap on the wrist. This act was way beyond kicking or punching the pig!
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Old 11-23-2013, 09:43 AM
 
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However, somehow all those are morally superior to someone punching a dog.

Just think about those dogs born with genetic problems due to forced inbred, all for the purpose of breeding a particular species.

But I am sure that's morally superior as long as I dress up my own chiwawa in some pink sweater that no dog in the world would ever voluntarily wear!
I'm with you here......The phrase I hate the worst is "my dog is so cute, I'm going to breed her" I always suggest spaying and neutering, always! They have a dog on the internet calling it a kanagroo dog rather than calling it what it is, a polluted gene line.

Yes, dog clothes have got to be the dumbest thing to ever happen to a canine friend!

I really wish not all people felt the need to be dog owners, just as all people should not have children.

How about the hypoallergenic dog.......yeah right! All dogs roll in manure or mud if given the chance, even high end dogs.
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