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Anyway, electronic records are records and are almost always admissible in court and in investigations. This applies to electronic surrogates as well. Because it is a fully electronic transaction, restaurants do not need to save the receipts. How would this apply to online transactions, for example? When I order from mealeo.com and the restaurant gets the order, processes the credit card transaction, collects the tip for the delivery person and drops it at my apartment, there is nothing for me to sign. No receipt generated. It's all electronic.
no receipt for you, but one IS printed at the place of business, and they do keep them. as i said i have been through this before.
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I've been through the bank-hacking thing. However, it is their databases that are being hacked, and the hackers aren't using credit card receipts to do so. Or, the bank let their firewall guard down and sent information in an unencrypted format. All of which is why you won't find a single story of that actually happening from a credit card receipt. Even an ATM receipt won't give away your personal information.
are you sure the hackers are not using credit card receipts? as i said there is a lot of information on them, so unless you are a hacker, or belong to a group of hackers, you dont know where they start their hacks. and like i said, there is a transaction number on the receipt where by your personal information CAN be accessed if you can get into the financial institution in question.
She/the restaurant set up a Paypal account to accept donations. She wanted donations. Period. End of discussion.
Nowhere has it been written that she set up the PayPal account. The restaurant did that. All she did was go public, which of course is the problem in the first place.
From CNN: "Morales says that between the people who have called in to the restaurant to give credit card numbers, those who have mailed tips, or donated to a special PayPal account the restaurant set up, she estimates that she has received more than $2,000 so far."
Nowhere has it been written that she set up the PayPal account. The restaurant did that. All she did was go public, which of course is the problem in the first place.
From CNN: "Morales says that between the people who have called in to the restaurant to give credit card numbers, those who have mailed tips, or donated to a special PayPal account the restaurant set up, she estimates that she has received more than $2,000 so far."
That's cute. Somehow, some way you feel that the restaurant's actions and her actions are mutually exclusive, that one operates separately from the other even as both parties benefit from the other's actions.
The mental gymnastics are impressive. You deserve an award.
no receipt for you, but one IS printed at the place of business, and they do keep them. as i said i have been through this before.
I know some restaurant owners; most if not all discard the paper copies. Electronic records do not need a paper surrogate. The information stored electronic is enough for any audit or investigation, especially when the information is duplicated by the financial institution. When did you go through this? The use of these records grows all the time.
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are you sure the hackers are not using credit card receipts? as i said there is a lot of information on them, so unless you are a hacker, or belong to a group of hackers, you dont know where they start their hacks. and like i said, there is a transaction number on the receipt where by your personal information CAN be accessed if you can get into the financial institution in question.
If they're already in the institution's system, they don't need the reference number from a receipt. They already have access to that information. There's no information on these receipts that can be used for that. Again, if there was, this would be an extremely pervasive problem. You see discarded receipts in nearly every trash can.
That's cute. Somehow, some way you feel that the restaurant's actions and her actions are mutually exclusive, that one operates separately from the other even as both parties benefit from the other's actions.
You're always more than welcome to show me even one single quote that acknowledges she had any part at all in setting up the account. This is not an uncommon thing. And she may have been involved in that creation, but it's written exactly nowhere that she was. Again, it was a really dumb and wrong thing that she did, if this is all true. But you're casting her motivations as profit-driven, and there's no evidence of that whatsoever. (Which makes it even weirder!)
You're always more than welcome to show me even one single quote that acknowledges she had any part at all in setting up the account. This is not an uncommon thing. And she may have been involved in that creation, but it's written exactly nowhere that she was. Again, it was a really dumb and wrong thing that she did, if this is all true. But you're casting her motivations as profit-driven, and there's no evidence of that whatsoever. (Which makes it even weirder!)
Sorry to rain on your parade, pee in your Corn Flakes, whatever. But you are quite naïve.
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Her post triggered an outpouring of support from people across the globe, and over $1000 in donations to a PayPal account that she set up at the urging of other Facebook users.
Pathetic that the gay army was so gullible that they believed the waitress, just so that they could claim "victim" status.
Vicious stunts like this only alienate people.
The party line with them is that the homosexual is flawless, incapable of misconduct and always the victim. The sad part is that this waitress was automatically believed simply because she was homosexual. They wanted this to be true to perpetuate their fairy tale fantasy. This doesn’t look good for the waitress, the restaurant in question and those going out of their way to defend, excuse and justify such abominable misconduct.
Waitress better fess up...seems like the couple accused have been pretty quietly getting their ducks in a row on this one and it doesn't look good for the accuser.
I expect it might have a lot to do with the "local" news story that blew into a National News story, the recent threats against the Red Lobster customer, what happened to Paula Deen AND …. the Facebook posts of the Restaurant involved.
Often times when receipts are shared publicly like this the employer isn’t happy about it. This wasn’t the case with the owners of Gallop Asian Bistro as they stated the following:
Dayna is one of our absolute best servers working here at Gallop. We as a team were deeply hurt by the events that transpired. I myself as the General Manager took it personal as my team treats each other like a family. I made sure that Dayna was compensated for the tip, as for emotionally I wish there was much more I could do. One thing I can say is that people of that woman’s kind business is not welcome here at Gallop, and I can assure you that if they decide to dine here again that they will be turned away.
Sincerely,
Byron Lapola
General Manager
Gallop Asian Bistro And…
I can confirm this story as accurate. It is very sad that there are individuals in this world that don’t understand that people are people. Red, black, white, blue, straight, gay, bi, it makes no matter. Their heart beats, the bleed, and they hurt. What happened was appalling. And I would stand behind any of my employees in a situation such as this.
They have now removed those posted from the Business Facebook - their "reviews" are in the dumper and I'm sure they can't keep up with trying to delete the angry posts about the defamatory fake credit card receipt. It's pretty clear that Dayna duped them all - she deserves to lose her job and so does the Manager. This is about more than money - reputations are on the line in some cases. People get threatened, there are a lot of folks out there with a scam and they don't care who get's hurt. It's going to take several lawsuits before Restaurants start cracking down on this nonsense.
I agree with the poster about 'spitting in food' post by Dayna …… that is grounds enough for termination.
How hard can it be to have every employee sign a notice of Zero Tolerance on posting ANY customer information or Credit Card receipts online? This is not rocket science.
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