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Old 12-02-2013, 03:28 AM
 
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Don't these people understand basic economics that higher wages translates to higher prices, less customers and maybe no job at all.

http://www.nytimes.com/2013/12/02/bu...ties.html?_r=0
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Old 12-02-2013, 04:30 AM
 
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As the article says, Restaurants are already responding the the strike by looking at having more automation. These guys are going to lose a certain amount of jobs to robots.

You do feel bad for low pay workers, but Mr. Rojas in the article has he tried to get a 2nd job so he can get more than 20 to 25 hours a week, since he wants more? Has he tried to pick up a trade, skill, or education that would lead to a better job with all of that free time? He claims that he has completed pharmacy technician training, but needs $100 to get his license...and can't get or borrow it...seems a bit far fetched as he lives at home.

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Old 12-02-2013, 04:38 AM
 
Location: Bella Vista, Ark
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I will repeat what I have said over and over: $15 an hour will lead to higher prices and many of those now enjoying things like food stamps, etc. because they only work at a fast good restaurant (which is their own fault) will go over the poverty line and lose the government benefits they have. Thus they will end up on the losing end of the stick. Not only that, min wage jobs are not meant to be a person's full time employment. They are designed as second jobs, a starting job for a teen who is just entering the work force, etc. Let's face it, most of these people who think striking will solve their problems are being given a bunch of crap from union leaders. They don't know how to think for themselves and don't understand how the union benefits when wages are raised.
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Old 12-02-2013, 05:17 AM
 
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I'm in favor of all these hairbrained leftist ideas now.

If it crashes the system faster, let's go for it.
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Old 12-02-2013, 05:22 AM
 
Location: Metro Detroit, Michigan
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McDonalds is already heavily automated. You press the drink button and it fills the cup up to the brim without the worker standing there. You put the burger in the grill and it cooks both sides in around 20 seconds. Same deal, the worker can move on to other tasks.

Unfortunately for McManagement, there's not much else they can do. I doubt the McMinimum wagers are going to go to $15/hr, but I think they deserve a bit more. Fast food is one of the fastest growing industries in America unfortunately... Well, there are costs of doing business.

Yes, they could fire and hire all day long. You think the next crop of minimum wagers wouldn't mind getting a raise? Nobody is going to lose much sleep over a minimum wage job. It's not like it was making their life all that much happier...

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I'm in favor of all these hairbrained leftist ideas now.

If it crashes the system faster, let's go for it.
What system exactly? If fast food is that vital to the success or failure of the American economy, we should have worried a LONG time ago...
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Old 12-02-2013, 05:27 AM
 
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The economy is slowly winding down to a bare minimum of activity.

This will speed up the wind down.
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Old 12-02-2013, 05:55 AM
 
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The economy is slowly winding down to a bare minimum of activity.

This will speed up the wind down.
Wow, the world must be awfully bleak in your mind. Good thing the rest of us are continuing to live our lives, see increases in our retirement accounts, tons of economic activity this past weekend, etc.
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Old 12-02-2013, 05:57 AM
 
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Bots see what they're told to see.
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Old 12-02-2013, 06:06 AM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
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These fools are but pawns for the SEIU.
An industry with a 75% turnover rate is not exactly prime fodder for the union.
Then again, if unionized, these workers are protected from "no call, no show" termination.
Union must be getting desperate for members.

The story behind America's fast food worker uprising | Arun Gupta | Comment is free | theguardian.com
At the same time, workers in Chicago say union organizers were responsive to demands for more input, resources and control. Sam says, "At the shop level we control the messaging, we control the tactics, we decide what we want to organize around, we motivate the strikers."
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...there's little evidence of worker-to-worker organizing.
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But SEIU also has a comprehensive national plan centered on the two public demands of $15-an-hour pay and the right to unionize free of intimidation.
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Old 12-02-2013, 06:14 AM
 
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Union must be getting desperate for members.
Union membership only accounts for about 10% of the workforce here in the US these days.
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