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Old 12-02-2013, 07:16 PM
 
Location: Vegas
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Despite all the anti-GM crops theatrics, anti-capitalist bias and opposition to empirical science, nothing substantive has been produced that would dissuade most farmers from using genetically engineered seeds. Particularly when GM crops are designed to resist pests, require less fertilizer or water, and are more bountiful than conventional crops – or some combination of these.
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[SIZE=3]Read full story with links @ Case Closed: There's Nothing Wrong With Genetically Modified Crops[/SIZE]


[SIZE=3]And this is in spite of all the Greenie demands to use biofuels which otherwise deplete foodstuffs for the poor.[/SIZE]
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Old 12-02-2013, 10:31 PM
 
Location: Satellite Of Love
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Comment below reads: "nice propaganda Monsanto". Enough said.
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Old 12-02-2013, 11:32 PM
 
Location: Victoria TX
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Where does it say, in the linked article planted in International BUSINESS Times by a Big BUSINESS, that food that is NOT genetically modified is NOT SAFE, which is the definite implication of the title of this thread. And they NOW have safe food -- compared to what?

Big corporations have plenty of money to run rampant with their global propaganda, without posters on forums giving them an added boost.

Every sentence in the linked article is suspect. " . . this year’s corn harvest will be the biggest on record", conveniently neglecting to mention that most of corn will be used to fuel vehicles, not feed people.

"Nothing substantive has been produced that would dissuade most farmers from using genetically engineered seeds." Most farmers, you mean 51%, who have been bludgeoned for decades of junk corporate-fed journalism like this (and so not dissuaded), but what the 49% of farmers who know that GM is a load of bullcrap shoved down their throats? The only thing that this "statistic" says is that "most farmers are too dumb to be skeptical of Monsanto's promotions and threats".

Case closed? Give us a break.

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Old 12-03-2013, 10:06 AM
 
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The vast majority of GM foods go to the Third World where it is needed most. There are basic grains that are drought and insect resistant. This means food gets to where it's needed most.

When you are talking about corn for biofuels, you're talking only about the USA. Other countries are using other biomasses to work to create fuels.
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Old 12-03-2013, 10:14 AM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
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Like climate change ? It's "closed" ?

Give it 10 or more years for the effects of low dosage pesticides in your system to take hold.

Agent Orange was deemed "ok" too at one point in history.
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Old 12-03-2013, 10:16 AM
 
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opposition to empirical science

Whenever I read this it tells me that in whatever context it's used someone doesn't actually want to defend their position.

It's just like reading "peer reviewed". It's simply an attempt to end debate.
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Old 12-03-2013, 10:17 AM
 
Location: Victoria TX
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The vast majority of GM foods go to the Third World where it is needed most. There are basic grains that are drought and insect resistant. This means food gets to where it's needed most.

When you are talking about corn for biofuels, you're talking only about the USA. Other countries are using other biomasses to work to create fuels.
Yeah, but the vast majority of what people pay for food in the third world goes to Monsanto, because farmers are required to pay Monsanto every year for new seed stock. It is a famine waiting to happen, because if anything happens to Monsanto's capacity to produce and deliver seed stock, there will be absolutely nothing to eat. And the USA was once the world's largest exporter of corn to the third world, where it is needed most, and that is now going into your gas tank so you can save a nickel driving to the mall on Black Friday to get half off on a 72 inch screen.

None of which is relevant to the thread. The fact is, the article cited in the OP is a completely fabricated lie, which reads like a press release from Monsanto. And a careful reading of every single sentence reveals that is so heavily hedged, that there is no verifiable substance to it at all. All it says is "Most farmers believe it when they are told by Monsanto that GM foods are safe", and even that is unsourced. And even the publication itself is transparently a promotional tool for big corporations like Monsanto to lie to the public. And Monsanto's profits come from hungry people in the third world, profits that are used to spread more lies and propaganda and devise more methods of extracting the wealth of the third world.

Do you realize what a drop in the bucket "10s of millions" is? That is the population of countries you can't even find on a map. Ten million people is 000.1% of the world's population, one person in 500. And for that, BigAg is creating a dead end to food growth worldwide, which would become impossible if a Monsanto truck cannot arrive at the farm every spring with new seed stock. Tell that to 10s of millions.

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Old 12-03-2013, 11:22 AM
 
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Yeah, but the vast majority of what people pay for food in the third world goes to Monsanto, because farmers are required to pay Monsanto every year for new seed stock. It is a famine waiting to happen, because if anything happens to Monsanto's capacity to produce and deliver seed stock, there will be absolutely nothing to eat. And the USA was once the world's largest exporter of corn to the third world, where it is needed most, and that is now going into your gas tank so you can save a nickel driving to the mall on Black Friday to get half off on a 72 inch screen.

None of which is relevant to the thread. The fact is, the article cited in the OP is a completely fabricated lie, which reads like a press release from Monsanto. And a careful reading of every single sentence reveals that is so heavily hedged, that there is no verifiable substance to it at all. All it says is "Most farmers believe it when they are told by Monsanto that GM foods are safe", and even that is unsourced. And even the publication itself is transparently a promotional tool for big corporations like Monsanto to lie to the public. And Monsanto's profits come from hungry people in the third world, profits that are used to spread more lies and propaganda and devise more methods of extracting the wealth of the third world.

Do you realize what a drop in the bucket "10s of millions" is? That is the population of countries you can't even find on a map. Ten million people is 000.1% of the world's population, one person in 500. And for that, BigAg is creating a dead end to food growth worldwide, which would become impossible if a Monsanto truck cannot arrive at the farm every spring with new seed stock. Tell that to 10s of millions.
Would you like a tissue to go with your little tantrum?

No one is forced to buy seed from Monsanto, they are perfectly capable of buying elsewhere. Farmers buy from Monsanto because they offer the best value of product and price. You are perfectly welcome to go into the seed business.

Most of the tear-jerking, anti-science crowd are so terrified about Monsanto and others with GMO products, they throw around terms like "Frankenfood"...but can't back up a single word with evidence or science indicating that there is any danger in any of it.
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Old 12-03-2013, 12:04 PM
 
Location: Victoria TX
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Most of the tear-jerking, anti-science crowd are so terrified about Monsanto and others with GMO products, they throw around terms like "Frankenfood"...but can't back up a single word with evidence or science indicating that there is any danger in any of it.
Nor did the site linked in the OP "back up a single word" in what is obviously a promotional piece for huge multinational corporate industries. And lest we forget, my original reply was directed at the OP, who said food is NOW safe, implying that it was not safe before the GM people got hold of global food production. So where is your "single word of evidence" that food was not safe before, but NOW it is?

Thanks to the tear-jerking crowd terrified about Monsanto and others' share values declining.

The article, by the way, is bylined by Mike Obel, who has "worked in corporate public relations, speech writing and media communications for BP PLC and ConocoPhillips." Which is where he learned to write BS convincingly, sidestepping any legitimate and verifiable data.
To find the truth, follow the money.

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Old 12-03-2013, 12:06 PM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
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Monsanto is quietly buying up all the seed companies.
Like Outlander..in the end there can be only ONE !
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