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Old 12-27-2015, 07:52 AM
 
Location: Finland
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Europe

How Russia conquers Europe?

First: They walk into the Scandinavian countries (Finland, Sweden, Norway, Denmark, & Iceland) without a single shot.
Though you are either delusional, misinformed or a troll, but the Russians are stopping already at the first step, just like last time. The fundamentals of the Finnish military doctrine are that we should be able to cause so much damage to the attacker that it becomes economically impossible to gain anything. For example this is demonstrated in our field artillery, which is the largest in Western Europe. Our army can muster 1400 barrels and heavy mortars above 120 mm, while the UK and France have around 900, and Germany some 25 less than us.

I can also assure you that the Russians, or "little green men" aren't coming here without a shot. We have big green men who are willing to fight to the death. I'm a sergeant in the reserve and I will die rather than see the Slav tricolour flying on the roof of our parliament. And I'm not alone in my thoughts. Not surprising though, as the Slav hordes from the east have tried to destroy us for the last 1000 years or so. And they will not succeed the next time either.
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Old 12-27-2015, 08:57 AM
 
Location: Londonderry, NH
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I figure that WW3 has already begun on the financial and religious fronts. It is All the World vs. Islam. Eventually it will involves guns, bombs and WMD's. The underlying reason is modern finances and industrialization cannot co exist with any society where worship of a mythic sky god is more important than being a Minion of Mammon.
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Old 12-27-2015, 09:10 AM
 
Location: Iowa, USA
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BAM! Everyone gets mad as **** at each other. For some reason, the US sits this one out (non stop football on TV is distracting them) and everyone decides not to nuke each other into oblivion

One one side, we have non-US NATO countries, Australia, New Zealand, Japan, South Korea, Philippines, Israel


vs

China, Russia, Pakistan, Iran, North Korea, Kazakhstan, Serbia, Belarus, Syria, Iraq, and any other Russian/Chinese/Iranian satellite state out there


What happens and who wins???
Based on that scenario, it woulds like the United states. Is Canada involved? They might be a winner too?

I also think you sort of misunderstand how WWI and WWII worked. It wasn't as simple as several nations coming together and yelling "WAR!" The wars essentially started out as multiple wars happening with multiple countries in the same geographic space. And it wasn't really as simple as the good guys beating the bad guys. Fun fact, while the Allies 'won' in WWI, several of the allied powers were defeated, most notably Russia. Why Russia is notable is because that defeat was so deadening to Russia that it caused the Russian Revolution to happen, and the Russian empire fell to become the Soviet Union. Also noteworthy, France was defeats in WWII.

So it's more complicated that the good guys win.

Its frankly very unlikely that a war of this scale will occur anytime in the foreseeable future. Another 'Cold War' is more likely than another World War, and a Cold War is also not exactly something we expect to happen.
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Old 01-01-2016, 02:18 AM
 
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Though you are either delusional, misinformed or a troll, but the Russians are stopping already at the first step, just like last time. The fundamentals of the Finnish military doctrine are that we should be able to cause so much damage to the attacker that it becomes economically impossible to gain anything. For example this is demonstrated in our field artillery, which is the largest in Western Europe. Our army can muster 1400 barrels and heavy mortars above 120 mm, while the UK and France have around 900, and Germany some 25 less than us.

I can also assure you that the Russians, or "little green men" aren't coming here without a shot. We have big green men who are willing to fight to the death. I'm a sergeant in the reserve and I will die rather than see the Slav tricolour flying on the roof of our parliament. And I'm not alone in my thoughts. Not surprising though, as the Slav hordes from the east have tried to destroy us for the last 1000 years or so. And they will not succeed the next time either.
Here we go again....
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Old 01-01-2016, 04:51 AM
 
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Here we go again....
How so? Russia would probably take Finland but; Russia would be hurt, too. That would weaken it right there AND give time for Poland, Germany and so on to do their "dirty work".

Like I've said before: Russia in 2015 is Mexico with nukes, take the nukes away and Russia would be very lucky to get out of a war without being destroyed. Why I say that is Russia's pop is dropping AND its heavy industry is less than just Germany's.
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Old 01-01-2016, 10:26 PM
 
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How so? Russia would probably take Finland but; Russia would be hurt, too. That would weaken it right there AND give time for Poland, Germany and so on to do their "dirty work".

Like I've said before: Russia in 2015 is Mexico with nukes, take the nukes away and Russia would be very lucky to get out of a war without being destroyed. Why I say that is Russia's pop is dropping AND its heavy industry is less than just Germany's.
Yes I understand your technical analysis to be very constructive on this thread comment. However, I went through a lot of battles against Ariete to follow me on multiple CD threads. Why Europe's quality of life is better than the US b/c of Europe's lack of military spending to depend on the US military for security. This is the reason that I replied to Ariete, "Here we go again...." Sadly, how the Finnish Viking cannot comply with the logic.
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