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Old 12-19-2013, 12:17 PM
 
Location: Texas
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I am NOT looking to start a general pro-choice vs. pro-life debate with this thread.

With that being said, the 5th Circuit and subsequently SCOTUS have allowed Texas to enforce strict new abortion laws for about 1 1/2 months now.

Supreme Court refuses to block Texas abortion law

A lot of pro-choicers were very concerned about the potential effects of this law which is probably the strictest in the country that is actually in effect. A lot of pro-lifers thought this would significantly reduce the number of abortions in the state.

I haven't heard much about this lately so I'm assuming it's not having nearly as huge of an effect as either side had feared or hoped. Have any of you heard anything about the ACTUAL effects of this law? It was covered extensively in national news prior to passing and being allowed to be enforced, but not so much if at all since.

Was this all a waste of time for pro-lifers? Was protesting and opposing the law a waste of time for pro-choicers?
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Old 12-19-2013, 12:41 PM
 
Location: On the Group W bench
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Abortion Clinics Start Closing Across Texas « CBS Dallas / Fort Worth

Pro-lifers won. More unwanted babies for Texas. Yay.
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Old 12-19-2013, 12:47 PM
 
Location: Stasis
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Many abortion clinics have closed. Women seeking abortions now have to spend more to travel further or go out of state for abortions.
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Old 12-19-2013, 03:08 PM
 
Location: North Texas
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Abortion Clinics Start Closing Across Texas « CBS Dallas / Fort Worth

Pro-lifers won. More unwanted babies for Texas. Yay.
As if we didn't have enough already. Yay.
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Old 12-19-2013, 03:15 PM
 
Location: texas
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Your link seemed to cover "where we are". The SC allowed the Texas law to proceed while the law while PP's appeal is going through the 5th circuit.
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Old 12-19-2013, 03:28 PM
 
Location: California
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Default New Texas abortion laws

Maybe if people would use the abundance of birth control that's available we wouldn't need to abort their babies. Common sense. It's called being responsible.
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Old 12-19-2013, 03:33 PM
 
Location: Stasis
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Maybe if people would use the abundance of birth control that's available we wouldn't need to abort their babies. Common sense. It's called being responsible.
Texas schools don't teach birth control - they just preach abstinence.
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Old 12-19-2013, 03:36 PM
 
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Maybe if people would use the abundance of birth control that's available we wouldn't need to abort their babies. Common sense. It's called being responsible.
LOL.

1. the pill isnt 100% effective. Imagine that.
2. pregnant teens arent known for being responsible. Actually....teens in general arent.
3. Its been shown time and time again that Texas is shooting itself in the foot by this sort of thing. Enjoy!
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Old 12-19-2013, 03:37 PM
 
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Texas schools don't teach birth control - they just preach abstinence.
What? Please tell me you're joking. Thats freaking insane.
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Old 12-19-2013, 03:40 PM
 
Location: Stasis
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What? Please tell me you're joking. Thats freaking insane.
My kids just got 'abstinence-only' instruction at Texas public schools.

Blind to the Facts: Sex Education in Texas Public Schools | Lubbock Online | Lubbock Avalanche-Journal

The survey found that a “quiet revolution” was underway in Texas with abstinence-only instruction being replaced by abstinence-plus sex education programs (although abstinence-only programs continue to be the predominant approach in the state). These “plus” programs include medically accurate information about contraception that reflects public opinion for the need to shift orientation. 80% of Texas voters favor “teaching about contraception, such as condoms and other birth control, along with abstinence, in high school sex education classes”. State policy-makers have entirely ignored this overwhelming public support and continue to emphasize abstinence-only.

As noted in the report abstinence-only programs either ignore contraceptive information completely or only discuss failure rates. Misleading or factually incorrect information about condoms and STDs are often found in the teaching material and a reliance on shaming and fear-based instruction is given.
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