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Old 12-22-2013, 12:03 AM
 
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We'll see. Did you forget how the media could barely stomach Hillary in the last race? And do you really think the high African American turnout will happen with Hillary? I highly doubt that. She will never have the advantages that Obama had, and I think people are tired of the same families running again and again. Being a Clinton or a Bush will be a hindrance in the next election, and so will the Affordable Care Act. Clinton probably won't win Independents, and she certainly won't win conservatives. She was never extremely liberal, so the far left won't like her either. She has examples of incompetence that will certainly haunt her in the election. I think there is still some animosity against her by African Americans after the '08 campaign. I don't think it will be the cakewalk you seem to think it will be.[/QUOTE]

It will be a cakewalk for Hillary unless you run Christie
I don't believe that, but we'll see.
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Old 12-22-2013, 12:36 AM
 
Location: Wasilla, Alaska
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I guess you forgot he supported expansion of Medicaid..wouldnt that make his a socialist-communist?
Incorrect. During the 1995 fiscal battle with Clinton, when Clinton shutdown the government, they were fighting over the reduction of growth in MediCare/MedicAid. Clinton wanted a 12% increase in MediCare/MedicAid, and Speaker Gingrich, along with Kasich, only wanted a 6.5% increase in MediCare/MedicAid. In the end Clinton's veto was overridden.

Clinton became the very first President to shutdown government because he felt Congress was not spending enough. Every other President before Clinton has shutdown government when they felt Congress was spending too much.
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Old 12-22-2013, 12:48 AM
 
Location: Wasilla, Alaska
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I personally think Romney would have made a great president. He would have at least focused on growing our economy to help our debt problems, which is a better idea than austerity.
Romney would have been a vast improvement over the petulant child currently residing in the White House, but hardly "great" by any standards.

Presidents are shaped primarily by Congress. They have no control over what Congress enacts. If they find it egregious then they can veto it if it does not pass with a veto-proof majority. Otherwise they are stuck with what Congress enacts into law.

For example, I seriously doubt Bush (43) would ever have signed the Continuing Resolution that gave the US a $1.4 trillion deficit for the first time in US history in 2008, had it not passed Congress with a veto-proof majority.

Or Clinton, who signed the repeal of the Glass-Steagall Act of 1933 in 1999, had it not passed Congress with a veto-proof majority.

Or Bush (41), who lost in 1992 to Clinton over his "read my lips" pledge. It was a stupid pledge to make, considering Congress enacts the taxes and can raise or lower them despite the President's wishes.

Most Americans, indoctrinated by mainstream media, believe Presidents are all powerful. Able to enact laws as they see fit, as Obama has amply demonstrated in recent days. Very few Americans actually comprehend how their own government is suppose to function, and therefore frequently blame the wrong branch of government.
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