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Old 12-28-2013, 10:55 AM
 
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How did people get by before government was there to take care of everyone's needs? Lets get back to that.

 
Old 12-28-2013, 10:56 AM
 
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See that's what fools most people. They only consider federal income tax as a "tax".
Your total "tax liability" is near 43%.

It was 38% in 2012 and 43% in 2013.
Next year it will hover near 50% for some people with new
Where can you get a better deal? These figures are a bit dated but still....
Americans' tax burden is lightest in developed world - USATODAY.com
 
Old 12-28-2013, 10:56 AM
 
Location: North Carolina
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poor people either choose to be poor by being lazy, or they're actually incapable of supporting themselves without the assistance of others. The problem is that it's impossible to determine who's who. I would love to see some of these lazy bums work a full time job they hated like most Americans; however, That's not everyone that is on assistance.
 
Old 12-28-2013, 10:56 AM
 
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Actually yes you can. I don't purposely look but did notice a girl in front of me using an EBT card at the grocery store. She looked perfectly healthy and capable of working to me. The poor little older lady scanning her items. She was working but had to serve the lazy young girl getting free food.
You are just too nosy for your own good, that girl could have been purchasing food for her mother sitting in the car. You have no idea what the story or circumstances were. She may have have been temporarily on food assist because of having children and an emergency situation. And that is one case out of millions, get a life.
 
Old 12-28-2013, 10:58 AM
 
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You are just too nosy for your own good, that girl could have been purchasing food for her mother sitting in the car. You have no idea what the story or circumstances were. She may have have been temporarily on food assist because of having children and an emergency situation. And that is one case out of millions, get a life.
lol, I didn't have to be nosy. She didn't try to hide the card as if it was no big deal. And you defend loads on society too hard. Why? are you a load too? Don't hold your breath if you think we should praise people on the dole.
 
Old 12-28-2013, 10:58 AM
 
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Why are they having children they can't afford to begin with? Can't afford children? Don't have them. That is a pretty common sense thing to do, huh? Oh wait, were talking about hands out liberals...
Red states.......republicans........have the highest welfare hands out than anyone. Wouldn't those be conservatives....oopsie.
 
Old 12-28-2013, 10:58 AM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
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Where can you get a better deal? These figures are a bit dated but still....
Americans' tax burden is lightest in developed world - USATODAY.com
26% of GDP in 2008 ?

That's NOT your total tax burden and that figure is over 5 years old.
 
Old 12-28-2013, 10:59 AM
 
Location: southern california
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i was very poor--i have not always lived in this wonderful country. before i came here i was poor,, more so than most american welfare recipients-- many who are somewhat proud of their "poor status".
i spent a lot of years here helping the poor in the welfare system.
the first thing i learned what not to mention that i did not shop at the mall, have a cell phone or cable. i also worked and went to free night school after. of course all these items helped me make ends meet & get ahead. but to share this revelation with welfare recipients??? that sort of talk will get you written up in a jiffy.
mentioning these basic facts to a welfare recipient is perceived as moralizing--- judgemental and stereotyping behavior.

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Old 12-28-2013, 10:59 AM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
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Red states.......republicans........have the highest welfare hands out than anyone. Wouldn't those be conservatives....oopsie.
But they are DEMOCRATIC pockets within those red states
 
Old 12-28-2013, 11:00 AM
 
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As I said we should help those who can't provide for themselves. No argument from me there. Should we subsidize welfare queens? Should we make it so easy to live off the government? If you want money here is a list of jobs you will have to do to earn it. There are a great many jobs that need to be done, but aren't.
In Thailand I watched them building a highway. There had to be 20 guys with shovels in their hands. A dump truck would drop a load of gravel and those guys would hit like a swarm of bees. Every damned one of them was smiling. They were getting paid to work.
Now how many of those inner city dead beat dads would be caught dead slinging gravel in 90 degree heat?

How many redneck welfare methheads would do it?
We have become a culture of entitlement.
No one is arguing that there isn't a subset of losers we would all like to see off the rolls. It is a matter of identifying them and ensuring laws stop them from financial help. On the other end of the spectrum, we offshored millions of low level jobs, and there are truly needy and deserving people we do need to help. Again an identification problem.
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