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Old 01-06-2014, 03:19 PM
 
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oh please

who profited...certainly not NYC....certainly not FDNY.....certainly not the PANYNJ

what 'government' employees 'profited'

name them...since you are making the accusations
Not sure what is meant here, but the patriot act could be said to have benefited many govt agencies, their abilities and funding. Not just govt though. Essentially, it has been used as a blank check to do many things.

As to the buildings it is possible there are those that benefited from destruction of records or insurance. Certainly many did not benefit.
This kind of stuff just seems ridiculous to me.
Gov't won't even give page counts of secret PATRIOT Act documents | Ars...

 
Old 01-06-2014, 03:24 PM
 
Location: Old Town Alexandria
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also the Patriot Act and PNAC were conveniently all prepared months before 911. Thanks cdUsr Im not on here as much. Amazon has a plethora of factual books on PNAC for those interested in facts and not lies sold by msnbc or talk shows these days.
 
Old 01-06-2014, 03:35 PM
 
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also the Patriot Act and PNAC were conveniently all prepared months before 911. Thanks cdUsr Im not on here as much. Amazon has a plethora of factual books on PNAC for those interested in facts and not lies sold by msnbc or talk shows these days.
As far as I know most bills are planned ahead of time by groups like ALEC. The PA would be a special one amongst bills for sure. The PA made radical changes in the US.
 
Old 01-06-2014, 04:48 PM
 
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Makes you wonder if something is coming down the pipe with the recent passing of the NDAA, doesn't it?
 
Old 01-06-2014, 06:10 PM
 
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Makes you wonder if something is coming down the pipe with the recent passing of the NDAA, doesn't it?
You really think there is much to wonder about there?
 
Old 01-06-2014, 10:36 PM
 
Location: Northridge/Porter Ranch, Calif.
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4. illegal war against Iraq, in which he not only got access to Iraq's oilfields, KBR and Halliburton scammed billions of dollars by allegedly "rebuilding" it.
5. The illegal invasion of Iraq also allowed companies to make billions of dollars by "supporting" the US and allied militaries. (Some of that "support," of course, included poisoning and electrocuting US warriors.)
The war against Iraq was not "illegal." Read up on the 1991 cease-fire agreement and resolution 1441.

Also, the two biggest suppliers of oil to the U.S. are 1. Canada and 2. Mexico.
 
Old 01-06-2014, 10:39 PM
 
Location: Northridge/Porter Ranch, Calif.
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1. Saddam Hussein was removed as an obstacle to the oil industry, which many are heavily invested in, getting control of Iraq's "suddenly uprated" oil supplies.
2. The demolition of WTC7, which was executed under cover of the attacks, meant that records supporting the SEC's case against Enron, Enron CEO Ken Lay left him susceptible to was, in an instant, vaporized.

case closed. everyone else can go back to believing the lies and watching fakery trash tv.
Speaking of fake, you should rephrase what you said above. WTC 7 was not "demolished under cover of the attacks." What is your source of that?
 
Old 01-06-2014, 10:47 PM
 
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Are you blind?
I stand by my statement!


SHOW US THE FOOTAGE FROM AROUND THE PENTAGON ON 9/11 -- THE UNEDITED FOOTAGE!!!!!!!!! (The footage taken from the security cameras all around there (Gas station,hotel,etc) with the date on it and all IN TACT!!


THEY WONT BECAUSE ITS ALL BS!!!!!!!


HERE ARE THE REAL IMAGES FROM THE PENTAGON!!!! (Unedited)

www.pentagonstrike.co.uk/pentagon.swf

NO WRECKAGE AT ALL!!!!

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Old 01-07-2014, 12:19 AM
 
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I stand by my statement!
no, you stand behind your ignorance.


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SHOW US THE FOOTAGE FROM AROUND THE PENTAGON ON 9/11 -- THE UNEDITED FOOTAGE!!!!!!!!! (The footage taken from the security cameras all around there (Gas station,hotel,etc) with the date on it and all IN TACT!!
why would there be "footage" at all?
why would security cameras have "date times etc" on them? (we do not live in a world where Hollywood immitates reality. 90% of security camera's footage do not contain a date or time)

CITGO's video was released (its been on YouTube for over 5 years now) do your own homework

Hotels? seeing as none of the hotels faced the Pentagon, exactly what would have been cuaght on video of cameras that doesn't face the Pentagon?

Oh, and in that list: no hotel video camera footage was taken or given to the FBI (so fail on your part.)


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THEY WONT BECAUSE ITS ALL BS!!!!!!!
they did, and I provided the list of what exactly was on the 84 tapes

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HERE ARE THE REAL IMAGES FROM THE PENTAGON!!!! (Unedited)

NO WRECKAGE AT ALL!!!!
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BHWHAHA, highly edited video showing only one seciont of the lawn that fronted the Pentagon,. thE LAWN was over 200 yards long.

this is classic truther evasive. I show debris, you show edited video that does't show you everything

the only scams going on are done by truthers.

Oh and debunk of the film Pentagon Strike, by a TRUTHER:

Pentagon Strike propaganda

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Pentagon Strike

slick propaganda for "no plane" hoax

  • Context: released just before 2004 Presidential "election"
  • Misrepresents eyewitness testimony (claims people who said they saw the plane supposedly saw a missile)
  • Misrepresents Physical evidence (falsely claims "small hole" which is not true)
  • Used as Straw Man by Media to Debunk 9/11 Truth
Pentagon - Debunking 9/11 truther (cough liars cough) claims

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YTNRkb7AaQk
 
Old 01-07-2014, 12:46 AM
 
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who benefitted? plenty.

1. Saddam Hussein was removed as an obstacle to the oil industry, which many are heavily invested in, getting control of Iraq's "suddenly uprated" oil supplies.
2. The demolition of WTC7, which was executed under cover of the attacks, meant that records supporting the SEC's case against Enron, Enron CEO Ken Lay left him susceptible to was, in an instant, vaporized.
3. CIA records, which could easily have included the longstanding covert CIA activities were, similarly, vaporized in an instant.
4. illegal war against Iraq, in which he not only got access to Iraq's oilfields, KBR and Halliburton scammed billions of dollars by allegedly "rebuilding" it.
5. The illegal invasion of Iraq also allowed companies to make billions of dollars by "supporting" the US and allied militaries. (Some of that "support," of course, included poisoning and electrocuting US warriors.)
6. the PATRIOT Act implemented, which gave him an extraordinary amount of personal control by fiat over the country's society, commerce and economy.
7. War on Terror
Dave Lindorff and constitutional rights specialist Barbara Olshansky, in their book, Among most grievous harms they list are:
• Misleading the nation into war
• Authorizing and encouraging the use of torture
• Failing in almost every way to defend the homeland and our borders
• Undermining habeas corpus and other traditional rights
Illegal NSA wiretapping, mail opening, and other assaults on the Bill of Rights

case closed. everyone else can go back to believing the lies and watching fakery trash tv.
we are all now paying the price. workingclass you support the nsa eh?
And, of course, Larry the Liquidator.

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