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Old 01-11-2014, 04:37 PM
 
Location: Ohio
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Everybody might not agree all the time on everything but what Mircea said about the American hospital association being a sort of monopoly and engaging in price fixing makes sense to me. No doubt the AHA has deep pockets to influence politicians no matter if they are a D or a R.

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Thank you for taking the time to research and explain, I did not know a lot of this. I predict co-pays and deductibles for the Canadian system in the near future, there is no way they can sustain the debt their wonderful system is accruing.
After the American Hospital Association disenfranchised Millions of Americans with the help of the US government, the American Hospital Association was Johnny-on-the-Spot with a solution to the very problem they created in the first place...

"Introduced by various House and Senate sponsors and subject to extensive hearings, the basic framework of part A began to reflect accommodations between the sponsors, the Administration and the American Hospital Association (AHA).

It ranged all the way from principles of institutional reimbursement, which has been pretty thoroughly already worked out in a general way for their own purposes between Blue Cross and the Hospital Association over a period of several years

The American Hospital Association has already nominated the Blue Cross organization for its membership, although some member hospitals will undoubtedly elect out of this arrangement. We have proceeded very far in the development of working arrangements with Blue Cross, although no formal approval as a fiscal intermediary has yet been given them."

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: Report to Social Security Administration Staff on the Implementation of the Social Security Amendments of 1965, Robert M. Ball Commissioner, November 15, 1965

Wow......it just makes your heart bleed.....how noble that the American Hospital Association gallantly and heroically offered up the Blue Cross Health Insurance company they own to fix the problem they created.

What will the American Hospital Association think up next?

The ACA? Uh, they already did. Aside from sections written by the IRS and H&HS, they wrote it all.


The hospital monopolies set the prices for healthcare.

How does replacing "health insurance" companies with a single-payer plan lower the cost of healthcare set by hospital monopolies?

How does taxing the holy snot out of Americans lower the cost of healthcare set by hospital monopolies?

I'm hoping everyone can see how absurd this whole thing is.

Your welcome....

Mircea
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Old 01-11-2014, 04:54 PM
 
Location: Montreal, Quebec
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