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View Poll Results: Do you support life equality?
Yes, I support the equal right to life for all. 42 53.16%
No, I do not support the equal right to life for all. 37 46.84%
Voters: 79. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 01-04-2014, 11:57 AM
 
Location: Los Angeles County, CA
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The Supreme Court, with guidence of medical and scienticfic experts, affirms a woman's right to feticide within a specific set of variables.
In doing so, the court made law rather than apply it, which is unconstitutional.
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Old 01-04-2014, 11:58 AM
 
Location: Los Angeles County, CA
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What's so magic about the number 20? C'mon, now, really...at 19 weeks it's ok to kill it, but at 20 weeks it's not? How about our definition of when a human life is "over" in terms of "usefulness".

Let's look at the other end of the life span. When should a person be said to have lived long enough?
What criteria are used? How should we value someone's life? By $$ signs, or by the contribution they've made to society, or according to whom they know/how "important" they are?

Should we put 5 people in a boat, ages 1 to 100 years and ask, "whom shall we toss overboard, because we don't have room for 5?"

Pro abortion arguments don't make any more sense than that, and neither do government end-of-life arguments. When we allow laws and regulations to determine at which point value of life begins and ends, then we've given government way too much power and have lost something immeasurably and significantly human, which separates us from the rest of the animal world.
Harrier wonders what criteria will be used by the Obamacare death panels.
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Old 01-04-2014, 12:00 PM
 
Location: Los Angeles County, CA
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What is so magical about the numbers 18, 21, or 65?
Congratulations! You get it! Those are completely arbitrary, as is the 20 weeks permissive deadline for a person/persons to destroy human life within the womb.
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Old 01-04-2014, 12:00 PM
 
Location: texas
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In doing so, the court made law rather than apply it, which is unconstitutional.
Incorrect. The Court affirmed that the law passed in the state of Texas was unconstitutional. The court wrote no law.

Where does it state in the US Constitution that mandates set by the Court will not be allowed?
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Old 01-04-2014, 12:03 PM
 
Location: Los Angeles County, CA
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20 or 24 weeks does not either. The Supreme court was not attempting to determin or qualify the "intrinsic value of life". The 24 week gestational period was a baseline to bring about order in when "viability" would be established.
It is appropriate that you placed that word in quotes, since both the concept and definition were pulled out of the majority side justices collective gluteus maximus
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Old 01-04-2014, 12:06 PM
 
Location: Long Island, NY
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Since murder is illegal in all 50 states, why is it legal to destroy human life inside the womb within those states?

If you support such destruction, then why are you against equal rights for all?

Let's create life equality!
It has been determined that embryos aren't people. They also aren't citizens.

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All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside.
Notice the world "born?"
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Old 01-04-2014, 12:06 PM
 
Location: Los Angeles County, CA
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Then your problem is not with abortion, it is with the manor in which disputes are settled in America. Come up with a better system.
There was no real dispute in Roe v Wade, it was manufactured.

"Roe" herself later regretted being a part of it and reversed her viewpoint concerning feticide.
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Old 01-04-2014, 12:09 PM
 
Location: Los Angeles County, CA
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It wasn't their concern to pass judgement on when life begins or its value. Roe v. Wade was not ajudicated to decide when life began.

You seem to be having a hard time understanding the role of the court in this case. Roe v. Wade was not to answer all the ethical questions of life or it's beginings. It was to determin if a woman had the right to terminate her pregnancy and when that termination could occur.
Since the U.S. constitution does not address this, it was the duty of the court to leave such judgments to the several states or to the people, per the Tenth Amendment.
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Old 01-04-2014, 12:09 PM
 
Location: Long Island, NY
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There was no real dispute in Roe v Wade, it was manufactured.

"Roe" herself later regretted being a part of it and reversed her viewpoint concerning feticide.
That's actually true but so what? She is entitled to her opinion and to reverse it. It doesn't give extra credence because now she agrees with you.
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Old 01-04-2014, 12:12 PM
 
Location: texas
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There was no real dispute in Roe v Wade, it was manufactured.

"Roe" herself later regretted being a part of it and reversed her viewpoint concerning feticide.
All cases before the court are. Lawyers choose a test case which best represents the action.

Norma McCorvey's case was chosen as representitve all women seeking lawful and safe abortions. Althought McCorvey lived in Texas her case was representitive of Women's rights in the US.

There are many women that regret their decision on abortion, that does not deminish the right they have to choose.
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