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sorry. none of this is relevant, so I didn't read it. you are missing the point completely. why even respond with such drivel. no religion has cornered the market on morality. Christianity, specifically, is not the one true guide to morality. and no religion should be endorsed on public grounds.
As long as all are allowed, there is no endorsement.
True, but that Oklahoma legislature guy said the equivalent of "There's not a chance that Satanist statue is going to be placed there".
And I don't agree with him.
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Which is why this thread exists - rather than allow a multitude of different religions to be displayed, only one is.
That's wrong.
That's unconstitutional.
Which is to say, it's illegal.
I agree. As an aside, there have been rulings that went against the idea that satanism is on par with other religions but it seems that's a bit irrelevant here as it seems those in charge aren't willing to allow any other displays.
True, but that Oklahoma legislature guy said the equivalent of "There's not a chance that Satanist statue is going to be placed there".
Which is why this thread exists - rather than allow a multitude of different religions to be displayed, only one is.
Look, I don't believe Satanism actually qualifies as a real religion. It is more a philosophy. It would be like saying that the people who follow the ethical teachings of Immanuel Kant are their own religion.
Satanists consider Satan to be a representation of basically free will and individualism. Which means, people who claim to be satanists, are those people who refuse to play by the rules of society. They want to create their own morality.
They don't believe in Satan as if he was the creator of the universe, or that there is an afterlife, or really anything that is common among religions. In practically all instances, Satanists are atheists. The concept of a satan figure is not about him being a deity. But is rather a symbol of opposition to Christianity. And/or an opposition to social conformity. In that sense, he is not a deity, he is simply an idol. They are really holding up in reverence basically a regular human-being in all his faults.
In that sense, satanism is about as much of a religion as Nazism is a religion. Where Nazi's basically worship people like Hitler, and practically turn him into the equivalence of a deity.
I don't believe if some Nazi's suddenly decided to call themselves a religion, that you would be too keen on allowing a Hitler statue on Oklahoma public property.
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No graven images as found in the Ten Commandments. Aren't Ten Commandments monuments in violation of one of those commandments?
No, graven images are items which are worshiped as if they were actually god. Which basically means, don't make an image of god, then worship that image. Such as the worship of a golden bull, or a magic rock, or a statue, or something of that nature. The ten commandments monument is not a graven image, because the ten commandments isn't meant to represent god.
It is pretty hard to disobey the graven image commandment. It would require you to basically make an image of god, then to worship that image. Which is why, there are no images of god. He is everything and nothing.
In my opinion, it has to do with the way you are supposed to basically "worship god". The pagans would create idols, and you would have to go to the idols to pay your respects to that god. Jews and Christians had no idols. When they prayed, they just prayed effectively to the air around them.
Christians didn't even want people to pray in the open. Matthew actually tells people to only pray in private, alone.
"When you pray, you are not to be like the hypocrites; for they love to stand and pray in the synagogues and on the street corners so that they may be seen by men. Truly I say to you, they have their reward in full." But you, when you pray, go into your inner room, close your door and pray to your Father who is in secret, and your Father who sees what is done in secret will reward you.
Yea, I hope they keep lots of rolls of toliet paper next to it. Ima crawl up and take a dump in Satan's lap every chance I get. Just so he knows how I feel about him. Plus it'll serve as a reminder to everyone else that comes along.
definitely more interesting than some commandments. . .but isn't Satan a fallen angel. I would think he would be amazingly beautiful and angelic.
Personally, I would rather have a monument to
Satan at one time was beautiful and sometimes can transform himself into an angel of light as the great deceiver . God struck down satan as a serpent to crawl in the dust on his belly.
Satan at one time was beautiful and sometimes can transform himself into an angel of light as the great deceiver . God struck down satan as a serpent to crawl in the dust on his belly.
So isn't Satan necessary in Christian belief or was there evil before Satan?
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