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Originally Posted by majoun
The only way that the death penalty could be made morally justifiable would be if the executioner would lose his own life as part of the process of the execution. (The late, great French-Algerian author and activist Albert Camus, a dedicated opponent of the death penalty, made this argument back in the 1950s).
Well then we'd just better develop an execution method that has the condemned as its operator, eh?
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A better idea would be to completely abolish the death penalty, because no government can ever be trusted to use it without abusing it.
Why is it so often those who say we can't trust the government make it part of their party's platform to give MORE $$$ to that very same government's Department of Defense, you know, the guys with the firepower?
Absolutely not. This is a first world nation...not some banana republic or Asiatic barbarian state.
Have some decency for crying out loud.
so you dont have a problem with the death penalty per say, just the method? and when someone is given the death penalty, did they have any thought of decency for their victims? in my opinion, a firing squad, hang mans noose, guillotine, lethal injection, all work for me.
I don't care what Utah or Washington has on the books. I was asked about firing squads and I gave my opinion. And that's a big fat NO.
Really--it is barbaric. The rest of the western industrialized nations already think our capital punishment is medieval--we would appear even more regressive using firing squads. There are some third-world countries that use this method, but do we really want to be put in the same category as Afghanistan, Cuba and al qaeda?
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Really--it is barbaric. The rest of the western industrialized nations already think our capital punishment is medieval--we would appear even more regressive using firing squads. There are some third-world countries that use this method, but do we really want to be put in the same category as Afghanistan, Cuba and al qaeda?
And if the crime is barbaric why shouldn't the punishment be so too?
Absolutely not. This is a first world nation...not some banana republic or Asiatic barbarian state.
Have some decency for crying out loud.
Decency? Firing squad is the decent, humane thing to do.
I am not a supporter of the death penalty, mind you, but if I had a choice between Electrocution, the Gas Chamber, the Needle, or Firing Squad, I would choose the latter. All the others have failure rates and have been documented to cause miserable protracted deaths.
A firing squad execution, honestly performed, is the best bet for a humane execution.
Today's appeals process is ridiculous. Used to be you had to be able to point a specific procedural error to appeal, now it seems all that's needed is disagreement with the verdict. Change that and the cost comes down immediately. And when there is absolutely no doubt of the convict's guilt in a crime such as murder, why shouldn't the death penalty be imposed? After all, jailing people hasn't worked very well as a deterrent either.
It would if we issued conditions of sentences such as forbidding protective custody for certain inmates. They have to be in GP, no special protections.
And if the crime is barbaric why shouldn't the punishment be so too?
Just give judges the power to forbid protective custody for certain inmates.
Being on Death Row means being protected from the other inmates, having the ability to make unlimited appeals, and having a safe existence behind bars. John Wayne Gacy would not have been able to sell his paintings and thus keep himself in drugs and cigars if he had not been on death row. Just imagine how long Gacy, or any other violent sex criminal, would have lasted in general population...
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