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Old 01-07-2014, 11:57 PM
 
Location: Ohio
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There are a lot of people making headlines these days for making anti-gay statements. These people are heavily criticized and some must even pay with their jobs and/or positions.

What I want to know is, why is it wrong to say that homosexuality is abnormal? It is one thing to spread hate speech or discriminate against someone because they are gay or deprive them of their civil rights because they are gay, but I really don't see why it is such a big deal when someone who is high profile says that being gay is abnormal, because it obviously is abnormal.

I have absolutely no ill will towards anyone who is gay. I could easily sit down and have a friendly convo with someone I knew was gay, and I fully support their right to have the same federal benefits as straight couples who've made a legal commitment to one another..... but do I think their sexual preferences are "normal" or "natural"?.....

no, I don't, and I don't see a problem with saying so. There are a lot of people who do things that are abnormal, but that doesn't mean I hate them or would discriminate against them for it.

 
Old 01-08-2014, 02:06 AM
 
Location: SoCal
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Being gay is abnormal in the sense that being black or being Jewish or whatever is abnormal--it does not describe the majority of the population.

Anyway, if one says that being gay is abnormal, then many people might (perhaps sometimes incorrectly) interpret it as an attempt to say something bad about gay people.
 
Old 01-08-2014, 02:08 AM
 
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How about because it is straight up rude?
 
Old 01-08-2014, 02:24 AM
 
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There are a lot of people making headlines these days for making anti-gay statements. These people are heavily criticized and some must even pay with their jobs and/or positions.

What I want to know is, why is it wrong to say that homosexuality is abnormal? It is one thing to spread hate speech or discriminate against someone because they are gay or deprive them of their civil rights because they are gay, but I really don't see why it is such a big deal when someone who is high profile says that being gay is abnormal, because it obviously is abnormal.

I have absolutely no ill will towards anyone who is gay. I could easily sit down and have a friendly convo with someone I knew was gay, and I fully support their right to have the same federal benefits as straight couples who've made a legal commitment to one another..... but do I think their sexual preferences are "normal" or "natural"?.....

no, I don't, and I don't see a problem with saying so. There are a lot of people who do things that are abnormal, but that doesn't mean I hate them or would discriminate against them for it.
So, that being said, you must have a real problem with oral sex. Nothing "natural" about that.
 
Old 01-08-2014, 02:35 AM
 
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How about because it is straight up rude?
Well yeah, there's that.
 
Old 01-08-2014, 02:42 AM
 
Location: California
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Think whatever you want and nobody cares. Say whatever you want at your own risk. Once something comes out of your mouth people get to react however they like.
 
Old 01-08-2014, 02:49 AM
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Some people have a problem with the truth. I don't hate them either. I feel sorry for them.
 
Old 01-08-2014, 02:59 AM
 
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Some people have a problem with the truth. And it is not the same as being black or Jewish. It is a sin against the natural order. Marriage of two people of the same sex would be the same as marriage of a human and an animal. That is not normal either. Children should be protected from being taught that abnormal is normal.

I don't hate them either. I feel sorry for them.
Now that is just a straight up rude and rather hateful post.

(Edited to add. I noticed you changed your original post. I think I'll leave it as quoted to show how you really feel.)
 
Old 01-08-2014, 03:15 AM
 
Location: Ohio
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How about because it is straight up rude?
High profile people say rude things all the time but don't face the same consequences and backlash that those who say rude things about the gay community do..... why is that?

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So, that being said, you must have a real problem with oral sex. Nothing "natural" about that.
No, I don't "have a problem" with oral sex, nor do I "have a problem" with homosexuals.

Both are abnormal and are not natural.

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Old 01-08-2014, 03:24 AM
 
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Some people have a problem with the truth. I don't hate them either. I feel sorry for them.
I feel sorry for them as well. I'm sorry that they are unjustly equated by people like you with people who practice bestiality or that they are committing a "sin" { as if such a thing actually exists here in the real world } I feel sorry that they are hated and discriminated against by certain factions and are considered a threat to the morality of children.

I don't feel sorry for them "because" of their homosexuality.... by all accounts they live happy and productive lives and don't harm anyone else with their existence.

That doesn't mean that I think homosexuality is normal though, because I don't, and I don't feel like a bigot for saying so, and I don't think anyone else should be persecuted for saying so either.
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