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Old 01-23-2014, 09:00 PM
 
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Whether or not the students hail from Oakland, California (or not) should be taken into consideration by the professor.
In Oakland, Ebonics is a recognized and legit language.
So you promote gutter or ghetto English?
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Old 01-23-2014, 09:04 PM
 
Location: Billings, MT
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"Everytime with the same goal and conclusion, something is wrong with the black race that needs to be fixed by black people in order for them to advance. Never fails never changes."

since it is so very prevalent, is it even remotely possible that there is a grain of truth to it? If there is, are you open minded enough to admit it?
Nearly every stereotype is based on some small fact that occurred many years ago, and may still be common.
If there is a stereotype about YOUR group that you don't like, seems to me it behooves YOU to make every effort to combat that stereotype!
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Old 01-23-2014, 09:05 PM
 
Location: My beloved Bluegrass
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Is it racist to correct black students grammar?
No.

I got into a huge argument with a professor and another black student in an education class over this. It is racist to have lesser expectations of students based on their race, including lower expectations of grammar and proper speech.
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Old 01-23-2014, 09:07 PM
 
Location: My beloved Bluegrass
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Whether or not the students hail from Oakland, California (or not) should be taken into consideration by the professor.
In Oakland, Ebonics is a recognized and legit language.
In the rest of America, where many will try to get a well paying job once they complete that college degree, it isn't.
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Old 01-23-2014, 09:23 PM
 
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The ENTIRE tone of the article isn't written objectively. Rather, it's condescending and sarcastic. No wonder anyone reading it might interpret the students' behavior as overreacting?!? The writer has a viewpoint and it's a mistake that he chooses to impress that upon the reader. I had to dig through his jaded comments to actually get to the focus of his article.

Nevertheless, to answer your basic question: no, correcting someone's grammar is not an act of racism.

I personally am a huge proponent of correct grammar and syntax and do understand the professor's position on wanting to make the students' aware of their errors. How else can they/will they improve?

My inherent problem with this article lies in the fact that the students felt as though they were being singled out. It'd be interesting to see more of their examples and also, accurate documentation of the professor's objective findings.

Sigh...
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Old 01-23-2014, 10:14 PM
 
Location: Alameda, CA
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The question asked in the OP has very little to do with the circumstances that occurred and why the students were demonstrating.
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Old 01-24-2014, 06:20 AM
 
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Racism eminating form a progressive college faculty? UCLA is a bastion of progressive professors- no way they can be racist
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Old 01-24-2014, 07:24 AM
 
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So, the 'different standard' accusation by the student against the professor, was not supported, with proof? Is that what you are saying?
Yes.

The only way to establish a "different standard" is to compare standards. There weren't any comparisons offered, no evidence that other groups were corrected more leniently. If the professor corrected the grammar of all of his students consistently, then the complaint that he was more hostile to black students is unsupported. Which does not mean disproven. There just isn't enough information to support the protesting students' claims.
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Old 01-24-2014, 07:27 AM
 
Location: deafened by howls of 'racism!!!'
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No.

I got into a huge argument with a professor and another black student in an education class over this. It is racist to have lesser expectations of students based on their race, including lower expectations of grammar and proper speech.
exactly.
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Old 01-24-2014, 07:59 AM
 
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25 students staging a sit in got their 15 minutes of fame.
I wonder if they misspelled words on their posters?
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