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Old 01-26-2014, 12:54 PM
 
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It's understandable the need to deflect...typical leftist...

It is a typical, and expected, response of liberals when confronted with facts that show the policies of their party have failed. They cannot accept failure, therefore libs-

1. deflect or change the subject

2. call whoever points out "cracks" in liberal policy a "racist"

3. say that liberalism fails as it did not "go far enough"

4. say that liberalism fails due to conservative obstruction, not its own inherent failures

5. say that liberalism fails as the public is not smart enough to understand its nuances

6. contend that liberal policy can only be implemented if libs control the House, Senate and POTUS with super majorities- not just control.

7. say that liberal policy fails due to criticism from FOX news, otherwise it would work


If you laugh at any of these, just take a look daily on this site. You will find each and every one of these lame rationalizations stated over and over again. It is laughable, but libs really believe it.
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Old 01-26-2014, 01:06 PM
 
Location: Ohio
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Your right-wing free-market system was a disaster and much more expensive.
I'll bet you get off practicing your Göbbels imitation.

In a Free Market System there is no such thing as

1] In-Network/Out-of-Network
2] Hospitals organized as monopolistic cartels
3] Hospitals that illegally collude to illegally engage in price-fixing
4] Hospitals that price-gouge consumers
5] Hospitals that discriminate in pricing, charging one person one fee, and another a different fee
6] Hospitals lacking in transparency
7] Coerced consumer transactions vis-a-vis health plan coverage
8] Being relegated to 3rd Party status --- your employer-based health plan is a contract between your employer and your health plan provider....you have no legal standing as a beneficiary.

All of those things are Left-Wing Soviet-Style Command Economics controlled by the American Hospital Association.

Refuting propaganda and disinformation....

Mircea
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Old 01-26-2014, 01:12 PM
 
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The cellar is the new high for Obamaliescare.
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Old 01-26-2014, 05:18 PM
 
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Oh, so you Fox News aficionados must remember that George W. Bush implemented the Medicare RX plan. Oh, giving prescription drugs to seniors at reduced rates was an awful plan, right??? I bet all those who now use that plan are very happy with it!

Just give the affordable care act some time... Eventually, all the problems with the website will iron themselves out and in future years, people will love it. Just like they do George's Bush's RX plan!!!

And remember, if you want poor sick people to just use the emergency plan instead of a affordable care insurance visit to the doctor, then YOU may end up sitting in the ER with your broken leg for hours because poor people with no health insurance use the ER for a strep throat and got there before you!!
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Old 01-26-2014, 05:31 PM
 
Location: Ohio
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And remember, if you want poor sick people to just use the emergency plan instead of a affordable care insurance visit to the doctor, then YOU may end up sitting in the ER with your broken leg for hours because poor people with no health insurance use the ER for a strep throat and got there before you!!
Uh, poor people with "insurance" still use the ER anyway, but thanks for the scare tactic just the same.

Thanking...

Mircea
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Old 01-26-2014, 05:57 PM
 
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Oh, so you Fox News aficionados must remember that George W. Bush implemented the Medicare RX plan. Oh, giving prescription drugs to seniors at reduced rates was an awful plan, right??? I bet all those who now use that plan are very happy with it!

Just give the affordable care act some time... Eventually, all the problems with the website will iron themselves out and in future years, people will love it. Just like they do George's Bush's RX plan!!!

And remember, if you want poor sick people to just use the emergency plan instead of a affordable care insurance visit to the doctor, then YOU may end up sitting in the ER with your broken leg for hours because poor people with no health insurance use the ER for a strep throat and got there before you!!
ACA increases the numbers using the ER
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Old 01-26-2014, 05:58 PM
 
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Oh, so you Fox News aficionados must remember that George W. Bush implemented the Medicare RX plan. Oh, giving prescription drugs to seniors at reduced rates was an awful plan, right??? I bet all those who now use that plan are very happy with it!

Just give the affordable care act some time... Eventually, all the problems with the website will iron themselves out and in future years, people will love it. Just like they do George's Bush's RX plan!!!

And remember, if you want poor sick people to just use the emergency plan instead of a affordable care insurance visit to the doctor, then YOU may end up sitting in the ER with your broken leg for hours because poor people with no health insurance use the ER for a strep throat and got there before you!!


BUSH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!:rolle yes:



So sad...but expected....
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Old 01-26-2014, 06:01 PM
 
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It does not matter what % of Ameridolts don't support Husseincare...........Hillary will STILL march to victory!
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Old 01-26-2014, 06:02 PM
 
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ACA increases the numbers using the ER
Ah, this is just temporary until poor people (and young singles) learn that they should find a "family doctor" to use for things like colds, etc. It will take time but eventually most of these folks will learn the ropes because who wants to sit in an ER for 4-6 or more hours instead of seeing your doctor?
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Old 01-26-2014, 06:12 PM
 
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Ah, this is just temporary until poor people (and young singles) learn that they should find a "family doctor" to use for things like colds, etc. It will take time but eventually most of these folks will learn the ropes because who wants to sit in an ER for 4-6 or more hours instead of seeing your doctor?
ACA not only increased the numbers of people on Medicaid, who tend to use the ER more than any other group, but also caused millions of policies to be cancelled.

Tell me what part of ACA encourages people on Medicaid to see private family doctors instead of their normal ER visits...

You can sit here and pretend things in order to make an argument, but I find pretending things to be true, doesnt really hold up to scrutiny.
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