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Old 02-07-2014, 01:17 PM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
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There are lies, there are damned lies, and there are statistics.
How do you reconcile the fact that the employment participation rate is at a 35 year low and the number of people of people not in the labor force soared to a record high of 91.8 million?

It is easy, someone is lying....
It's not a lie, it's "seasonally adjusted"


"The great enemy of truth is very often not the lie – deliberate, contrived and dishonest – but the myth – persistent, persuasive, and unrealistic. Too often […] we enjoy the comfort of opinion without the discomfort of thought."
JFK 1962
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Old 02-07-2014, 01:21 PM
 
Location: Alaska
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You have got to quit believing everything you read regarding these numbers. Obummer has changed the calculation to suit his needs. The real rate is most likely above 20%

It was a joke now it's to the point of an outright pathetic lie.
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Old 02-07-2014, 01:24 PM
 
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I guess we can all celebrate that ending extended unemployment benefits was a good thing.
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Old 02-07-2014, 01:25 PM
 
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You have got to quit believing everything you read regarding these numbers. Obummer has changed the calculation to suit his needs. The real rate is most likely above 20%

It was a joke now it's to the point of an outright pathetic lie.
True but "Obummer" is not the first one to alter the calculation.
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Old 02-07-2014, 01:25 PM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
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I guess we can all celebrate that ending extended unemployment benefits was a good thing.
According to this report we're happily cruising along on the highway of recovery.
I don't understand why the Dems want to extend UE benefits either.
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Old 02-07-2014, 01:25 PM
 
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I don't understand how the last two month's pathetic job growth could result in such a drastic drop in the U6 rate.

U6 Unemployment Rate | Portal Seven

Apparently, according to the household survey, it turns out that over 600,000 people previously thought to not have jobs were actually employed in January. Read here for more info:

January jobs report: 113,000 jobs added, 6.6% unemployment rate « Hot Air

I don't see how they can decide that 616,000 people all of a sudden have jobs when the survey itself only monitors 60,000 households.
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Old 02-07-2014, 01:26 PM
 
Location: NE Ohio
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Then why are nearly half of all Americans without jobs?
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Old 02-07-2014, 01:27 PM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
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I don't understand how the last two month's pathetic job growth could result in such a drastic drop in the U6 rate.

U6 Unemployment Rate | Portal Seven

Apparently, according to the household survey, it turns out that over 600,000 people previously thought to not have jobs were actually employed in January. Read here for more info:

January jobs report: 113,000 jobs added, 6.6% unemployment rate « Hot Air

I don't see how they can decide that 616,000 people all of a sudden have jobs when the survey itself only monitors 60,000 households.
The BLS did their annual adjustment.
It's noted in their report.

The BLS also said not to compare Dec to Jan because they changed it all up.
Seems no one heeded their words.

I read the actual report from the BLS each month and also look at the raw data (unadjusted).
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Old 02-07-2014, 01:30 PM
 
Location: Sacramento, Ca.
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But let us not dare think that the ultimate incompetent named Barack could ever have the slightest thing to do with that or anything positive or progressive. Ever!!
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Old 02-07-2014, 01:39 PM
 
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The BLS did their annual adjustment.
It's noted in their report.

The BLS also said not to compare Dec to Jan because they changed it all up.
Seems no one heeded their words.

I read the actual report from the BLS each month and also look at the raw data (unadjusted).
So I guess it is a good report then? I always look at the U6 rate to tell if we had a good month or not. If it has decreased by .4% then that must mean that something went well.
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