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Agreed, selling a product like food, it should not be used to impose discrimination on who eats it. But if I don't like Fords, or foreign made cars, I can refuse to work on your car even though I run an auto repair shop.
If I'm a fanatic member of PETA and own a photography studio, or a web design company, I can refuse to photograph or promote your hunting, killing or butchering of deer or bear. People can have a business opened to the public and still control the details and specifics of what those services entail.
Like I said, if your religious beliefs prevent you from serving the general public (selling cakes, flowers, food, etc) don't open a business selling those things. If you open a business selling product A then you should sell product A to anyone in the general public. If you do not sell product A, then no one can force you to sell product A to them.
Like I said, if your religious beliefs prevent you from serving the general public (selling cakes, flowers, food, etc) don't open a business selling those things. If you open a business selling product A then you should sell product A to anyone in the general public. If you do not sell product A, then no one can force you to sell product A to them.
Leave religion out of it for the sake of discussion, if I really do not feel comfortable assisting a customer who is engaging in something that I find is personally offensive I should not be forced to do it, or lose my business license.
No, I'm not talking about refusing someone service based simply on their race or religion.
I gave the example of the person who belongs to PETA. Would you be in favor of government taking away that photographer's business license?
BTW, i already agreed with you on your point about selling food, so why dwell on that?
Why WOULDN'T you want a business to be open about their prejudice? Guess what will happen? When enough people know about the prejudice, they get to decide that they don't want to support that business, and they won't shop there, and eventually the place will go out of business.
You don't need a fricken law for that. Let it work naturally. The more you try to force people in to doing things, the worse you make it for everyone else. Let it happen on its own without your meddling. Your meddling makes this kind of stuff carry on for years and years and years. Or is that what you all truly want?
Leave religion out of it for the sake of discussion, if I really do not feel comfortable assisting a customer who is engaging in something that I find is personally offensive I should not be forced to do it, or lose my business license.
No, I'm not talking about refusing someone service based simply on their race or religion.
I gave the example of the person who belongs to PETA. Would you be in favor of government taking away that photographer's business license?
BTW, i already agreed with you on your point about selling food, so why dwell on that?
If you offer photography for animal killing videos, then you can not discriminate on who you do them for. If you do not offer animal killing video services, then you can not be made to do them.
If you offer wedding video services then you can not discriminate on who you do them for, if you do not do wedding videos, then no one can force you to.
If you do not offer to do a service (wedding videos, hunting videos, toyota repair, etc) no one can make you do those services. If you choose to offer those services, then you made the choice to do so, and can not discriminate against members of the general public.
If you offer service A to person 1, then you have to offer service A to person 2.
If you do not offer service A to any person, then you do not have to offer service A to anyone.
Why WOULDN'T you want a business to be open about their prejudice? Guess what will happen? When enough people know about the prejudice, they get to decide that they don't want to support that business, and they won't shop there, and eventually the place will go out of business.
You don't need a fricken law for that. Let it work naturally. The more you try to force people in to doing things, the worse you make it for everyone else. Let it happen on its own without your meddling. Your meddling makes this kind of stuff carry on for years and years and years. Or is that what you all truly want?
I guess you missed this..
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I just hope these businesses display a sticker in the window to that effect.
"I'm allowed to be a dick and discriminate".
That way, I'd know which
businesses to avoid and I'm not even gay. Most people I know wouldn't shop
there, either.
And the post following that, which said that liberals wanted a notification amendment put in, but they refused.
Why WOULDN'T you want a business to be open about their prejudice? Guess what will happen? When enough people know about the prejudice, they get to decide that they don't want to support that business, and they won't shop there, and eventually the place will go out of business.
You don't need a fricken law for that. Let it work naturally. The more you try to force people in to doing things, the worse you make it for everyone else. Let it happen on its own without your meddling. Your meddling makes this kind of stuff carry on for years and years and years. Or is that what you all truly want?
It wasn't the "liberals" that shot down the notification amendment.
This liberal agrees with you. I think that everyone should be open about their prejudices.
Certainly people who feel that their religion proscribes them from certain behaviors should be proud to share that with the world and be willing to accept that there are others who do not feel the same.
The only reason I can think of for not requiring notification is that perhaps people aren't quite ready to be shunned for their beliefs.
Oh, the irony.
What are you talking about? You could not have been any more vague then that.
The examples presented are not laws in any state. They are just examples. Hope that helps.
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