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Old 02-23-2014, 08:23 AM
 
Location: Dallas
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Just so we can protect ourselves from rogue cops like this one.

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Old 02-23-2014, 08:32 AM
 
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In Maryland you can get a ticket/arrested for recording a cop; I believe other states also have similar laws - and I'm fairly certain those laws eventually will be thrown out...but not yet.
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Old 02-23-2014, 12:22 PM
 
Location: planet octupulous is nearing earths atmosphere
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in Russia the drivers have a lot of dashboard cams,, that's how they got so much footage of the meteor that exploded over there..
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Old 02-23-2014, 12:28 PM
 
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In Maryland you can get a ticket/arrested for recording a cop; I believe other states also have similar laws - and I'm fairly certain those laws eventually will be thrown out...but not yet.
I'm pretty sure you can film them in California and Texas.
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Old 02-23-2014, 02:16 PM
 
Location: NYC
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I'm pretty sure you can film them in California and Texas.
You can film them anywhere. You can't make a law that directly conflicts with the first amendment.
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Old 02-23-2014, 02:22 PM
 
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You can film them anywhere. You can't make a law that directly conflicts with the first amendment.
I have to admit I do not know for sure, however, I believe the Maryland law was based on "recording without permission" that is often used for the wiretapping statutes - that is, BOTH parties must be aware of and have given permission for the recording to take place.

In Virginia, where I live, only one party has to know about the recording.

As such, I don't believe the 1st amendment has anything to do with this one.

Note, too, that some court somewhere MAY have said recording in public is okay, period, thus throwing most of these anti-police-recording laws out the window en-masse but, not being a lawyer, I have no idea if that has happened yet.
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Old 02-23-2014, 02:26 PM
 
Location: Texas
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I have to admit I do not know for sure, however, I believe the Maryland law was based on "recording without permission" that is often used for the wiretapping statutes - that is, BOTH parties must be aware of and have given permission for the recording to take place.

In Virginia, where I live, only one party has to know about the recording.

As such, I don't believe the 1st amendment has anything to do with this one.

Note, too, that some court somewhere MAY have said recording in public is okay, period, thus throwing most of these anti-police-recording laws out the window en-masse but, not being a lawyer, I have no idea if that has happened yet.
Well, courts have ruled that there's generally not an expectation of privacy in public. The 1st Circuit and several lower courts have ruled specifically that cops may be recorded. SCOTUS has declined to hear a case involving these laws.
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Old 02-23-2014, 02:37 PM
 
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Well, courts have ruled that there's generally not an expectation of privacy in public, but these laws haven't been thrown out federally.
After making my last post I did a simple search to see what the law(s) are/were all about - apparently the Maryland law - which may be void, BTW, if other things I read are valid - said you could not record VOICE without permission of all parties - and THAT was based off the wiretapping laws already on the Maryland books.

Again, in Virginia the wiretapping laws may be written differently even more than the "only one party has to know" bit.
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Old 02-23-2014, 02:39 PM
 
Location: Texas
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After making my last post I did a simple search to see what the law(s) are/were all about - apparently the Maryland law - which may be void, BTW, if other things I read are valid - said you could not record VOICE without permission of all parties - and THAT was based off the wiretapping laws already on the Maryland books.

Again, in Virginia the wiretapping laws may be written differently even more than the "only one party has to know" bit.
Right after I posted that I remembered that, while SCOTUS hadn't ruled on this, some lower courts had. I looked it up. See my edit.
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Old 02-23-2014, 02:44 PM
 
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I looked up the Maryland law on wiretapping - it's still "on the books" and, as far as THIS non-lawyer poster reading it can see, still prohibits recording the police: Maryland recording law

Other cases may have, as noted earlier, thrown this law out as being invalid in the police-recording scenario.
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