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Old 03-06-2014, 08:09 PM
 
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I'm not confusing anything.

I'm logically stating that the Court's focus on "to be in such a place as to have a reasonable expectation of privacy" is incorrect. Since in this case WHEREVER a woman is, she has a reasonable expectation to not have someone secretly place a camera under her skirt and take pictures. WHEREVER she is. d.
So catching a glimpse of woman's underwear on a escalator should be illegal, right? The famous Marilyn Monroe shot should be censored. Nonsense.
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Old 03-06-2014, 08:17 PM
 
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So catching a glimpse of woman's underwear on a escalator should be illegal, right? The famous Marilyn Monroe shot should be censored. Nonsense.
Me: Robbing a bank should be illegal.

You: So taking your money out of the bank should be illegal right?

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Old 03-06-2014, 08:27 PM
 
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Me: Robbing a bank should be illegal.

You: So taking your money out of the bank should be illegal right?

No. It's the same. Women can't have an expectation of privacy in public when any draft can suddenly expose their private parts to sunlight.
All this bickering is moot when women wear skirts shorter than my shorts and wear shorts that years ago would be considered an underwear. You can go to the beach and see women wearing practically only underwear.
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Old 03-06-2014, 08:33 PM
 
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No. It's the same. Women can't have an expectation of privacy in public when any draft can suddenly expose their private parts to sunlight.
which isn't what happened here nor will the new law make illegal.

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All this bickering is moot when women wear skirts shorter than my shorts and wear shorts that years ago would be considered an underwear.
Yes, blame her. Maybe a nice Burkha should be ordered?
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Old 03-06-2014, 08:45 PM
 
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which isn't what happened here nor will the new law make illegal.
It's not what happened, but if it did, and someone took a "Marilyn Monroe pose" picture of the lady in question should it be illegal as well?
It's all about expectation of privacy in places where there can't be any.


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Yes, blame her. Maybe a nice Burkha should be ordered?
I am not blaming anybody but simply pointing out that women wear today in public fifty years ago was reserved for the beach or not at all. Let's not play moral crusade when less and less of a women's body is covered at all. I am not complaining, I am enjoying it be let's be honest here, we're not living in Victorian times so let's not apply Victorian moral rules.
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Old 03-06-2014, 08:50 PM
 
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It's not what happened, but if it did, and someone took a "Marilyn Monroe pose" picture of the lady in question should it be illegal as well?
It's all about expectation of privacy in places where there can't be any.
What a person intentionally poses for is not in question here.



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I am not blaming anybody but simply pointing out that women wear today in public fifty years ago was reserved for the beach or not at all. Let's not play moral crusade when less and less of a women's body is covered at all. I am not complaining, I am enjoying it be let's be honest here, we're not living in Victorian times so let's not apply Victorian moral rules.
You are blaming the victim.
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Old 03-06-2014, 09:08 PM
 
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What a person intentionally poses for is not in question here.
What if it wasn't intentional and the wind just blew up her skirt, should taking a photograph be illegal then?
If so, who should be penalized? The photographer or the wind?


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You are blaming the victim.
Victim of what? Go to the beach, ladies wear what basically is underwear in public, without worrying that they can be seen or photographed. Where's the victim?
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Old 03-06-2014, 09:30 PM
 
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Massachusetts court says upskirt photos legal
YES!!!!!
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Old 03-06-2014, 09:36 PM
 
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What if it wasn't intentional and the wind just blew up her skirt, should taking a photograph be illegal then?
If so, who should be penalized? The photographer or the wind?
already addressed. The new law.will target those who set out to intentionally film up a persons dress.

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Victim of what? Go to the beach, ladies wear what basically is underwear in public, without worrying that they can be seen or photographed. Where's the victim?
Sometimes its just best to let a persons words represent them.
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Old 03-06-2014, 09:48 PM
 
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already addressed. The new law.will target those who set out to intentionally film up a persons dress.
If a person, I assume a woman, right?, chooses to wear clothing that exposes parts of her body than this person shouldn't feel victimized when those parts are photographed.


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Sometimes its just best to let a persons words represent them.
I understand you don't have a response. Case closed.
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