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Old 03-08-2014, 08:16 AM
 
Location: Old Bellevue, WA
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House to Vote on Bill to Stop

Cathy McMorris Rodgers (R, WA) and Darrel Issa (R, CA) put together legislation to counter the Imperial Presidency, which Pres. Nixon sought, and Pres. Obama has attained. Not according to me, but according to liberal law professor Jonathan Turley.

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“Throughout his tenure we have witnessed a pattern,” she [McMorris Rodgers] said. “When the president disagrees with laws, he ignores them. And now that Obamacare isn’t working, President Obama is rewriting his own law on a whim.”

The proposal would allow Congress to take a matter to the courts, and provide an expedited process, when a president decides to color outside the lines. I suppose this is largely window-dressing, since it will almost certainly die in the Senate, and would be vetoed by Pres. Obama. But I do think that something like this is going to be needed. Do Democrats really want an Imperial Presidency going forward? Be careful what you wish for!

Here also is an excellent WSJ op-ed by Ted Cruz on the topic:
Ted Cruz: The Imperial Presidency of Barack Obama - WSJ.com

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The president's taste for unilateral action to circumvent Congress should concern every citizen, regardless of party or ideology. The great 18th-century political philosopher Montesquieu observed: "There can be no liberty where the legislative and executive powers are united in the same person, or body of magistrates." America's Founding Fathers took this warning to heart, and we should too.
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Old 03-08-2014, 10:24 AM
 
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Unfort there are too man dumb liberals here that will jump into denial and stand up for their party no matter what either it be wrong or right.
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Old 03-08-2014, 10:42 AM
 
Location: The Lone Star State
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Sounds good. But will it be supported? Most of the Washington elites are hardly interested in doing what's best for the people they serve these days.

We don't need an imperial presidency, on the left or the right.
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Old 03-08-2014, 10:50 AM
 
Location: Barrington
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Alrighty then.....

those who want to keep their former plans can no longer do so, effective immediately.
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Old 03-08-2014, 10:52 AM
 
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It's only an "imperial" presidency when there's a Democrat in the White House.

I wonder if some day, the GOP-led House is going to spend just a teeny, tiny bit of time and actually do something of value. I know, I know, I'm a dreamer...
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Old 03-08-2014, 10:55 AM
 
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Alrighty then.....

those who want to keep their former plans can no longer do so, effective immediately.
That is going to help trigger bailouts for insurance companies, what's your thoughts on that?

These last minutes changes to this very bad legislation are going to have consequences themselves.
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Old 03-08-2014, 10:59 AM
 
Location: The Lone Star State
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It's only an "imperial" presidency when there's a Democrat in the White House.

I wonder if some day, the GOP-led House is going to spend just a teeny, tiny bit of time and actually do something of value. I know, I know, I'm a dreamer...
In other words, you don't support the move and will fine with living under an imperial presidency, especially in the future when the president is a Repub.
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Old 03-08-2014, 11:06 AM
 
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In other words, you don't support the move and will fine with living under an imperial presidency, especially in the future when the president is a Repub.
In other words, it's just more of the usual conservatives wasting time (like 50 votes to repeal Obamacare) instead of actually addressing the real problems facing the country. This is becoming the usual pattern we see from the right when a Democrat is in the White House. I suppose I should be grateful these cretins aren't actually attempting to do any real work.
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Old 03-08-2014, 11:11 AM
 
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In other words, it's just more of the usual conservatives wasting time (like 50 votes to repeal Obamacare).
LOL..., at this point in time can you say they were wrong?
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Old 03-08-2014, 11:17 AM
 
Location: The Lone Star State
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In other words, it's just more of the usual conservatives wasting time (like 50 votes to repeal Obamacare) instead of actually addressing the real problems facing the country. This is becoming the usual pattern we see from the right when a Democrat is in the White House. I suppose I should be grateful these cretins aren't actually attempting to do any real work.
All of that vetoed by the WH, if it even makes it though the senate.

So you confirm you would be pleased with an imperial presidency or dictatorship... as long as it's a guy/gal from your side.
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