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Old 03-14-2014, 12:00 PM
 
Location: Florida
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Ha! Good luck. It will instead be spun to "it's Bush's fault" or diverted to "but, but, the Tea Party..." you know, the usual boogeymen.
Well since you brought that up, where is our apology for the Iraq War, shoved through Congress, costing us trillions borrowed from China, killed and wounded hundreds of thousands, and based on a lie. When we get that apology--long overdue, get back to us.
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Old 03-14-2014, 12:20 PM
 
Location: Boston, MA
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What the hell does Hollywood have to do with Obamacare/Romneycare?

You want to blame someone besides Obama blame Romney, the originator.
94% of the population of Massachusetts was covered before Romneycare, 96% are covered now. In addition, Massachusetts has the highest doctor/patient ratio in the nation.

The problem wasn't the same and the cure isn't the same.
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Old 03-14-2014, 12:41 PM
 
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I'm of the camp that this was designed to help dismantle the country. Any idiot can predict doubling and tripling healthcare rates in a struggling economy won't work.
I'm close to agreement. It was designed to fail. They knew they were lying, and now its hitting them quicker than they thought so they're delaying key portion until after major elections. They don't care about honesty, they care about power and their agenda.

liberals are some of the most vile and evil people imaginable. They'll do and say anything to get their way. Luckily for them, the media is right along with them. The world would be better off without liberalism and those that push it.

And look at the responses here. No remorse. They know we're right but will never apologize. They're scum
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Old 03-14-2014, 03:31 PM
 
Location: Billings, MT
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I find it very difficult to give any credence to anyone who equates "health CARE" with "health INSURANCE"!\

The PP&ACA is, IMO, a triple lie.
1. It does not "protect patients".
2. It is not, in many cases, affordable.
3. It does not provide health CARE, it makes health INSURANCE mandatory.

Then, of course, there are the REALLY BIG lies:
"If you like your health insurance policy, you can keep your policy, PERIOD!"
and
"If you like your doctor, you can keep your doctor, PERIOD!"
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Old 03-14-2014, 03:37 PM
 
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I really wish Hollywood Celebrities would stop pushing their liberal views on everybody, not only is it arrogant but its also very annoying.

The fact that you rarely ever hear or see a different view point presented in Hollywood should be a wake up call to people. It shows that liberalism is the establishment, and its controlling the mass media which has a huge influence on the sheep in our society. Try thinking for yourself, its almost like they're spewing propaganda.
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Old 03-14-2014, 04:23 PM
 
Location: Littleton, CO
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I really wish Hollywood Celebrities would stop pushing their liberal views on everybody, not only is it arrogant but its also very annoying.
What about the conservative celebrities? Them too?

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The fact that you rarely ever hear or see a different view point presented in Hollywood should be a wake up call to people.
It is certainly skewed... but that's simply professional demographics. The suite of persona traits that leads to a career in movies and theater have a huge overlap with the same traits that lead a person to the political left. So too with journalism. So too with education.

Welcome to the human condition.

At the other end, there are careers that are more congenial to a conservative personality: Banking, farming, extractive industries, money management and the military for a few examples. This is neither good nor bad. It just is.

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It shows that liberalism is the establishment, and its controlling the mass media which has a huge influence on the sheep in our society. Try thinking for yourself, its almost like they're spewing propaganda.
Oh stop whining. You always have FOX.
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Old 03-14-2014, 04:36 PM
 
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What about the conservative celebrities? Them too?


It is certainly skewed... but that's simply professional demographics. The suite of persona traits that leads to a career in movies and theater have a huge overlap with the same traits that lead a person to the political left. So too with journalism. So too with education.

Welcome to the human condition.

At the other end, there are careers that are more congenial to a conservative personality: Banking, farming, extractive industries, money management and the military for a few examples. This is neither good nor bad. It just is.


Oh stop whining. You always have FOX.
I'm not whining. Its just disingenuous for the media to be so one sided and for Hollywood to arrogantly push its views upon the many ignorant masses.

There are very few Hollywood conservatives, at least not manywho are oopen about their views. This is because the Hollywood Liberals discriminate against them if they speak their views, same with open Christians. There is even a group called The Friends of Abe which was founded be conservative celebrities as a place where other conservatives in Hollywood can go to for support from the Liberal Establishment in the industry. The only time an actor can be an open conservative or a Christian is when they have become cultural icons, such as Clint Eastwood or Chuck Norris (who has admitted that his conservative views made life hard for him in Hollywood by the Liberals).

I don't think it has anything to do with certain career paths, that is rather an emotional argument. Sure you will probably find more liberal journalism students, and you will probably find more conservatives running businesses (both small and large), but for the most part, I think it doesn't hold too much salt. Rather, I think certain industries are ran by certain groups of people with certain agendas. And in the case of Hollywood and the media in general, its ran by a liberal elitist establishment pushing a liberal agenda. And they don't want people with different views to upset that.
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Old 03-14-2014, 05:31 PM
 
Location: Phoenix
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You should be demanding an apology from the GOP for fielding such a ridiculous array of circus clowns in the 2012 primary. It was there for the taking but somehow the wing-nuts managed to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory.
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Old 03-14-2014, 05:33 PM
 
Location: Texas
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Talking Sounds like the makings of a big story.

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Obamacare was shoved through and since that time and before the vote, some warned of the problems with it among other things. These people were bashed and demonized heavily by Democrats, the media, Hollywood, and even out President. A few years later, we've been proven right. So much so, Obama and the Dems are delaying and altering parts of Obamacare....especially with the 2014 elections coming up.

They hood winked, lied, and deceived American people. They are owed an apology. Shame on all of them for their deceit and demonization. And shame on some of you liberals that continue to excuse and defend these people and this entire mess. Your agenda has really clouded and perhaps ruined any common sense and decency you may have once had.

Alert the media.

Write your congressman and senators.

BTW, somebody mentioned the president's birth certificate the other day. Got any updates on that?

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Old 03-14-2014, 05:47 PM
 
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Excuses, defending, and reflection. I expected nothing less from liberals
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