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We didn't overhaul health care, we overhauled the insurance industry and turned it into a mandated ponzi scheme.
Exactly. Obama wouldn't even touch reducing out of control costs, like tort reform because his and the democrats campaign contributors would not like that.
That same article shows another problem with the ACA:lack of awareness. I fully hold Obama accountable for not doing better at marketing and educating people on the law. It is so bad that some on both sides of the aisle, left and right, think we implemented single payer
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Exactly. Obama wouldn't even touch reducing out of control costs, like tort reform because his and the democrats campaign contributors would not like that.
That's okay. November 2014 is on the way. After that a Republican led House and Senate can start rewriting this mess.
The thing is any "fix" is either going to be introduction of a public option or moving towards a single payer system. Any party that openly advocates reintroducing pre-existing condition drops, and lifetime limits on coverage will be out of power for a long, long time. So good luck with running on repealing AMA.
Republican's will keep the house mostly because of gerrymandering, and they will get Senate seats as well, but they're not going to get anywhere near the 60 seats they're going to need to actually push an agenda. They'll simply be even more effectively obstructionist.
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Exactly. Obama wouldn't even touch reducing out of control costs, like tort reform because his and the democrats campaign contributors would not like that.
The hospital associations and the AMA need to be taken to task over open pricing for certain. And although people like to clamour for tort reform it hasn't done squat to control costs in the states that have already passed lawsuit limits.
I'm in my early 20s, I'm a college student. I was working full time at a restaurant in downtown San Francisco, after Obamacare my hours got cut to 25. It was either that or my employer would have been forced to lay people off or raise his prices. Something he cannot afford to do. He was looking at opening a second location, not going to happen now. My personal life is a bit more difficult, we had to get another roommate to help cover the rent and I'm looking for a second part time job, which isn't hard to find in California, but still my life, and the life of my boss, was far easier before Obamacare. And the uninsured, are still uninsured. And many of those who already were insured are now also uninsured. There is nothing''Affordable''about the Affordable Care Act. Nobody can afford it.
Liberals should have listened to us, we tried warning you, but you guys just kept on drinking the Kool-Aid. Now the whole country is in a mess because of your naivete' and '' Obama is the Messiah'' mentality. Oh well, just let this be a lesson for you, maybe now you won't be fooled into voting for Hillary.
I keep forgetting that healthcare insurance in the U.S. was perfect before the ACA.
The majority of people were and remain insured by their employer's large group healthcare plans. Those plans now conform with ACA legislation. They are now enrolled in "Obamacare".
The worlds oldest universal healthcare system was created in Germany in 1883. It has been continuously amended and reformed, since then. Employers pay about half the premiums for their employees.
Insurance for the poor, the elderly, the unemployed and disabled are paid for by the community.
At the turn of the century, Theodore Roosevelt, a Republican, campaigned on a promise to create a universal healthcare system for the U.S., modeled after the one in Germany. No president keeps all campaign promises, even when the majority of Congress favors him.
Instead, as the decades ensued, government of the people, allowed lobbies representing hospitals, private insurers, big pharma, medical equipment manufacturers and more to buy seats at the table to determine outcomes that favored their interests.
I'm in my early 20s, I'm a college student. I was working full time at a restaurant in downtown San Francisco, after Obamacare my hours got cut to 25. It was either that or my employer would have been forced to lay people off or raise his prices. Something he cannot afford to do. He was looking at opening a second location, not going to happen now. My personal life is a bit more difficult, we had to get another roommate to help cover the rent and I'm looking for a second part time job, which isn't hard to find in California, but still my life, and the life of my boss, was far easier before Obamacare. And the uninsured, are still uninsured. And many of those who already were insured are now also uninsured. There is nothing''Affordable''about the Affordable Care Act. Nobody can afford it.
Liberals should have listened to us, we tried warning you, but you guys just kept on drinking the Kool-Aid. Now the whole country is in a mess because of your naivete' and '' Obama is the Messiah'' mentality. Oh well, just let this be a lesson for you, maybe now you won't be fooled into voting for Hillary.
Were you going without health insurance before Obamacare? Do you not have any sense of personal responsibility to be covered so you didn't pass on the costs to taxpayers after bankrupting yourself?
Or are you advocating a more affordable public option, or single payer?
Exactly. Obama wouldn't even touch reducing out of control costs, like tort reform because his and the democrats campaign contributors would not like that.
I'm in my early 20s, I'm a college student. I was working full time at a restaurant in downtown San Francisco, after Obamacare my hours got cut to 25. It was either that or my employer would have been forced to lay people off or raise his prices. Something he cannot afford to do. He was looking at opening a second location, not going to happen now. My personal life is a bit more difficult, we had to get another roommate to help cover the rent and I'm looking for a second part time job, which isn't hard to find in California, but still my life, and the life of my boss, was far easier before Obamacare. And the uninsured, are still uninsured. And many of those who already were insured are now also uninsured. There is nothing''Affordable''about the Affordable Care Act. Nobody can afford it.
Liberals should have listened to us, we tried warning you, but you guys just kept on drinking the Kool-Aid. Now the whole country is in a mess because of your naivete' and '' Obama is the Messiah'' mentality. Oh well, just let this be a lesson for you, maybe now you won't be fooled into voting for Hillary.
The ACA is barley a liberal plan as I have describes in my post earlier. Obama was an idiot to try and appeal to the DINO's (Democrat in name only) by not offering a public option at the least, and then of course, to be swayed by health care lobbyist. Any one who thinks that the ACA is a left wing goal needs to get reevaluated. Those who advocated single payer are laughing because we also knew this was going to happen because the ACA was built upon the old system, and not actually overhauled
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I keep forgetting that healthcare insurance in the U.S. was perfect before the ACA. 
