Please register to participate in our discussions with 2 million other members - it's free and quick! Some forums can only be seen by registered members. After you create your account, you'll be able to customize options and access all our 15,000 new posts/day with fewer ads.
it would be nice if we just made it a law NO one could buy a gun
I am hearing this kid stole his gun from his step-dad, his step dad probably got his gun legally, woops must have left it out and the kid took it
Then stop blaming me and the 80+ million decent people in the United States who own guns and and put the blame where it belongs.
That's where you and the anti-gun crowds have it wrong. Push as many anti-gun laws as you want down our throats, criminals are not going to abide by them because they don't buy guns like us, and if you ban guns and force everyone to surrender them, do you really think criminals will be the first individuals to stand in line to surrender them? The only thing you'll end up doing is make it easier for criminals because they won't encounter resistance from the armed law-abiding public.
The problem is not guns, it's criminals. Wake up! Man has been killing fellow man long before guns were invented, so taking guns out of the equation is not going to suddently make criminals turn decent.
Tragedies like this can affect all of us and or prayers go for the families of those who were lost to gain strength from this tragedy.
Finland is also a socialist country with every male in the military.
If the USA would become socialist, it would eliminate poverty which is a big reason for crime.
Perhaps we should look at solutions to the causes rather than eliminating guns? Go socialist, collect more taxes, spread the wealth, pass out guns, put everyone in the military?
Umm maybe to an extent.
Most crime is committed by people who chose not to work therefore creating their own poverty.
Now that they are impoverished, they chose to steal rape and kill.
I doubt a new form of government is going to give millions of people who chose a life of crime to be law abiding citizens. (At least not this late in the game)
Point being obviously the firearms you would want banned are used in a sporting fashion....
Why would you think the animals would have more of a chance with a different rifle???
As to your last sentence,resorting to emotional rantings doesn't do much for your cause, at least in my opinion.
Here is another pic,just for you...
Thanks! Emotional ranting...from a guy that does not think a relationship between Mentally Disturbed individuals that have a high correlation to massacres in society is relevant to the discussion, and is more concerned with posting lots of neat hunting pictures. That is rich.
Emotional ranting is all this BS about how semi-automatics are necessary for protection against tyranny - when I haven't seen them used for that lately. Anybody care to share?
I on the other hand sort of consider getting massacred a bit "tyrannical"...or at least "bad".
Y'all are right though, there is "nothing" that can be done. Sigh.
Except purchase all your Christmas Gifts via Internet, apparently.
But I agree, let's certainly pray for the victims in this tragedy. And the next one...and the next....good hunting, boys!
Emotional ranting is all this BS about how semi-automatics are necessary for protection against tyranny - when I haven't seen them used for that lately. Anybody care to share?
Your inalienable rights don't disappear because you have not exercised them. When's the last time you were deprived of property without due process? Maybe we should eliminate due process from the equation if it hasn't happened yet.
Your inalienable rights don't disappear because you have not exercised them. When's the last time you were deprived of property without due process? Maybe we should eliminate due process from the equation if it hasn't happened yet.
Just stop with the "exercising your inalienable rights". There were no semi-automatics back in the Day - and the second amendment is referring to rights of militia to bear arms if you do a little research.
I am more concerned about the very real problems that threaten my fammily today, and their safety in school and in the malls of America.
What is the problem with trying to keep these types of weapons off the streets?
I would love a real answer, aside from the inalienable rights speech that gets repeated ad nauseum. Does anyone have any other answer besides that?
Just stop with the "exercising your inalienable rights". There were no semi-automatics back in the Day - and the second amendment is referring to rights of militia to bear arms if you do a little research.
Do my research? A militia is an eligible pool of citizens callable into military service.
Quote:
I am more concerned about the very real problems that threaten my fammily today, and their safety in school and in the malls of America.
What is the problem with trying to keep these types of weapons off the streets?
I would love a real answer, aside from the inalienable rights speech that gets repeated ad nauseum. Does anyone have any other answer besides that?
So the true answer doesn't serve your purpose, so it's not real? I think you're living in the wrong country if you disagree with one of the founding principles of this nation. One that was so important that it was only enumerated after the freedom of speech.
Thanks! Emotional ranting...from a guy that does not think a relationship between Mentally Disturbed individuals that have a high correlation to massacres in society is relevant to the discussion, and is more concerned with posting lots of neat hunting pictures. That is rich.
Emotional ranting is all this BS about how semi-automatics are necessary for protection against tyranny - when I haven't seen them used for that lately. Anybody care to share?
I on the other hand sort of consider getting massacred a bit "tyrannical"...or at least "bad".
Y'all are right though, there is "nothing" that can be done. Sigh.
Except purchase all your Christmas Gifts via Internet, apparently.
But I agree, let's certainly pray for the victims in this tragedy. And the next one...and the next....good hunting, boys!
You seem to be quite....emotional.
In regards to the emotional state of the murderers in question,there does seem to be some sort of connection between certain drugs and the criminals in question....do a search and you quickly find quite a few of these troubled youths were prescribed mind altering drugs.
Now to firearms being a protection against a tyrannical government,how recent do you want the example to be of small arms being used to fight a tyrannical government?
Please provide me an example where semiautomatics were used against the tyranny of the United States government.
Without discussing Waco, Ruby Ridge or other events involving cults or lunatic fringe isolationists.
As recent as you would like.
(You seem to be quite...ill-informed relating to PTSD symptoms and its correlation to disturbing violence in our society.)
Thanks also for briinging up the connection with unstable youth and Drugs. Yet another excellent reason to keep semis out of the hands of these troubled youngsters.
And please - why would limiting these semi-automatic weapons easy access to public be a bad thing...pretty please??
Please register to post and access all features of our very popular forum. It is free and quick. Over $68,000 in prizes has already been given out to active posters on our forum. Additional giveaways are planned.
Detailed information about all U.S. cities, counties, and zip codes on our site: City-data.com.
Please register to participate in our discussions with 2 million other members - it's free and quick! Some forums can only be seen by registered members. After you create your account, you'll be able to customize options and access all our 15,000 new posts/day with fewer ads.
...
