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Russia's behaviour goes against everything in the UN charter..
But then, when the US "legally" bombed Yugoslavia - it didn't go against the UN charter. Right?
And the same "legal" sh*t with Iraq's invasion...
Yeah, I know, it wasn't a violation of the international law.
But then, when the US "legally" bombed Yugoslavia - it didn't go against the UN charter. Right?
And the same "legal" sh*t with Iraq's invasion...
Yeah, I know, it wasn't a violation of the international law.
Yeah, the U.S.'s previous violations of international law do appear to weaken the credibility of U.S.'s criticism of Russia's invasion and annexation of Crimea.
1. I am not opposed to Crimea joining Russia, I am more concerned with how Russia conducted this referendum. For instance there was no option to retain the status quo (Crimea part of Ukraine), only an independent Crimea or Crimea annexed by Russia.
2. I also believe there should have been international observers to monitor the vote.
3. I also strongly suspect that the Russian brought in people who were not legally registered to vote in Crimea to vote in favor of annexation - this along goes against the concept of a free and fair vote.
4. Once again this goes to show how useless and pathetic the UN is.
1. Actually, I think that this might be incorrect.
I am not opposed to Crimea joining Russia, I am more concerned with how Russia conducted this referendum. For instance there was no option to retain the status quo (Crimea part of Ukraine), only an independent Crimea or Crimea annexed by Russia.
The were two options : 1. reunification with Russia, 2. to remain within Ukraine with an independent authorities.
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Originally Posted by WIHS2006
I also believe there should have been international observers to monitor the vote.
Genuinely interested in how the American people are taking Russia's annexation of Crimea.
Doesn't matter to me, and the US shouldn't be trying to do anything about it. We are not the world's police and if we spent half the time worrying about our own affairs rather than those of other countries, we'd be far better off. Sometimes Isolationism is the way to go.
{ and btw, the last option on your poll is an oxymoron. If you say "I don't care" and then go on to say "but the US shouldn't let this fly" that means that you in fact do care.... it just doesn't make any sense }
The big issue is that we are doing coup d'etat in other countries, are toppling a legal elected goverment, are creating a chaos and disasters in some countries, are inciting various military conflicts between people of one country... and then we are coming in there as the world's police...
And it is titled "defence of our interests".
4. The UN isn't completely useless, but is it useless on some/many issues? Yes, it appears so.
#3 sounds like something called "free association" which is recognized as a form of independence. Under any form of independence Crimea would inevitably become a Russian client state.
Remember, the various Soviet Socialist Republics were also theoretically independent nations in "free association" with Russia under a supra-national confederation called the USSR.
But then, when the US "legally" bombed Yugoslavia - it didn't go against the UN charter. Right?
And the same "legal" sh*t with Iraq's invasion...
Yeah, I know, it wasn't a violation of the international law.
I guess you missed my reference to "OTHER" in my mention of a security council member behaving in an imperialistic fashion.
Israel frequently violates 'international law' and Americans don't seem to care. Why is that?
Times are changing. There wasn't a peep of concern in the U.S. when the CIA orchestrated and the Americans funded the overthrow of a popular elected Iranian leader in 1953 which ultimately poisoned relations with Iran for decades. Now, there is some serious questioning of the U.S. agenda from its own citizens. That is some progress, at least.
But maybe it is too late. Previous generations staked prosperity on the ability to manipulate control people and countries in various areas of the world and force them to trade in U.S. dollars. It's becoming more apparent that the U.S. is not able to continue doing that so well.
polls over the last years have shown that only about 40% of Crimeans supported annexation with Russia. All those Russia Troops "helped" to "change" their minds.
I suspect the violent overthrow of the elected government in Kiev changed at least as many minds as the presence of some Russian troops.
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