Please register to participate in our discussions with 2 million other members - it's free and quick! Some forums can only be seen by registered members. After you create your account, you'll be able to customize options and access all our 15,000 new posts/day with fewer ads.
I just showed you how they are comparable. You seem blinded by your own prejudices.
About as comparable as apples and oranges. BTW, the same is true for belief and prejudice. They are not comparable either. There may be some commonality, such as "apples" and "oranges" are fruits, but there is a big difference between the two.
Perhaps technically, according to definition. But that's where it ends. Children have a right to know a mother and a father, and to enjoy that kind of relationship. Children of homosexual "couples" cannot participate in all activities as their peers can, and they grow up feeling "weird" (to quote one who writes about the experience). Imagine how you might feel not having any traceable family heritage, not knowing a father, and as for your natural mother, only an understanding that she donated an egg and rented out her womb so that your homosexual "parents" could claim the term for themselves, in their own quest to live as a "normal" couple. It is one of the most cruel things that can be done to a child.
This should be illegal.
That's uneducated prejudiced nonsense.
A review of most of the research on gay and lesbian parenting:
"Current research shows that children with gay and lesbian parents do not differ from children with heterosexual parents in their emotional development or in their relationships with peers and adults. It is important for parents to understand that it is the quality of the parent/child relationship and not the parent’s sexual orientation that has an effect on a child’s development. Research has shown that in contrast to common beliefs, children of lesbian, gay, or transgender parents:
Are not more likely to be gay than children with heterosexual parents.
Are not more likely to be sexually abused.
Do not show differences in whether they think of themselves as male or female (gender identity).
Do not show differences in their male and female behaviors (gender role behavior)."
"A growing body of scientific literature demonstrates that children who grow up with 1 or 2 gay and/or lesbian parents fare as well in emotional, cognitive, social, and sexual functioning as do children whose parents are heterosexual. Children’s optimal development seems to be influenced more by the nature of the relationships and interactions within the family unit than by the particular structural form it takes."
"Overall, the belief that children of lesbian and gayparents suffer deficits in personal development has no empirical foundation. .....
The results of some studies suggest that lesbian mothers' and gay fathers' parenting skills may be superior to those of matched heterosexual couples. For instance, Flaks, Fischer, Masterpasqua, and Joseph (1995) reported that lesbian couples' parenting awareness skills were stronger than those of heterosexual couples. This was attributed to greater parenting awareness among lesbian nonbiological mothers than among heterosexual fathers. In one study, Brewaeys and her colleagues (1997) likewise reported more favorable patterns of parent-child interaction among lesbian as compared to heterosexual parents, but in another, they found greater similarities (Vanfraussen, Ponjaert-Kristoffersen, & Brewaeys, 2003)."
About as comparable as apples and oranges. BTW, the same is true for belief and prejudice. They are not comparable either. There may be some commonality, such as "apples" and "oranges" are fruits, but there is a big difference between the two.
You're welcome.
The arguments against interracial marriage are hauntingly familiar 50 years later:
1) They claimed that marriage belonged under the control of the states rather than the federal government.
2) They began to define and label all interracial relationships (even longstanding, deeply committed ones) as illicit sex rather than marriage.
3) They insisted that interracial marriage was contrary to God's will.
4) They declared, over and over again, that interracial marriage was somehow "unnatural."
5) They insisted that because miscegenation laws punished both the black and white partners to an interracial marriage, they affected blacks and whites "equally."
And some people claim that the fight for same-sex marriage is not comparable to the fight for interracial marriage.
Even weirder, is that some of the same 'arguments' were even used to protest against women getting the vote back in the early 20th century. "It's unnatural!" "It's against God's plan!" "What next? If women are allowed to vote, will my dog be allowed to vote?" "What about the chillllllllldren?"
Reading that, it sounds like something he was handed to say!
I don't care what they say. He was sacked. Why would he want to hang around? This was such shabby treatment!
I wonder how they see this treatment as "promoting 'openness?'"
You don't care what Eich himself says, or Mozilla, or OkCupid, or anyone involved.... or any of the facts.
The pesky facts would interfere with you having a good ole gay bashing rant eh?
I think any sane rational person can see where the hate is coming from.
It's a mirror reflection, me thinks.
There's really no gay hate here. Just a difference of views, some very strongly felt, about ssm, gays and their agenda (which surely appears to be hate driven in many cases), and the pros and cons of gays being parents.
Those who can't (or don't wish to) discuss this subject civilly and rationally, probably should sit it out.
There's really no gay hate here. Just a difference of views, some very strongly felt, about ssm, gays and their agenda (which surely appears to be hate driven in many cases), and the pros and cons of gays being parents.
Those who can't (or don't wish to) discuss this subject civilly and rationally, probably should sit it out.
Very true. Support of traditional marriage does not automatically equal hate for homosexuals -- it really is a difference of opinion, but when gay marriage advocates treat anything other than complete acceptance as hatred, they're making this a black and white issue when the bulk of this debate lies in the gray area. I'd wager the majority of people who oppose same-sex marriage actually hold no bigotry towards people, but make this stance based on religious beliefs or moral values.
When you take no effort to consider the nuance of someone's opposition to gay marriage, you're shutting down any possible discussion and seeing everyone as homophobes, when that's simply not reality.
There's really no gay hate here. Just a difference of views, some very strongly felt, about ssm, gays and their agenda (which surely appears to be hate driven in many cases), and the pros and cons of gays being parents.
Those who can't (or don't wish to) discuss this subject civilly and rationally, probably should sit it out.
The only "agenda" is equality. What is hateful about that?
Very true. Support of traditional marriage does not automatically equal hate for homosexuals -- it really is a difference of opinion, but when gay marriage advocates treat anything other than complete acceptance as hatred, they're making this a black and white issue when the bulk of this debate lies in the gray area. I'd wager the majority of people who oppose same-sex marriage actually hold no bigotry towards people, but make this stance based on religious beliefs or moral values.
When you take no effort to consider the nuance of someone's opposition to gay marriage, you're shutting down any possible discussion and seeing everyone as homophobes, when that's simply not reality.
Thank you. You said it better than I did.
Quote:
Originally Posted by seattlerain
The only "agenda" is equality. What is hateful about that?
Perhaps it's in the execution of the plan?
Please register to post and access all features of our very popular forum. It is free and quick. Over $68,000 in prizes has already been given out to active posters on our forum. Additional giveaways are planned.
Detailed information about all U.S. cities, counties, and zip codes on our site: City-data.com.
Please register to participate in our discussions with 2 million other members - it's free and quick! Some forums can only be seen by registered members. After you create your account, you'll be able to customize options and access all our 15,000 new posts/day with fewer ads.
Thank you. You said it better than I did.
