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Old 04-13-2014, 12:25 PM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
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General Dynamics, Lockheed, LTV (and others prior) have been designing airplanes and assembling them in Fort Worth since the start of WW2. GD designed the ultra successful F-16 and F-111's

Bell Helicopter, has been here since the 1930's and always been a leader in Helicopters.
The Aerospace industry is huge in DFW with several of Boeings largest customers headquartered here.
Let's not forget those NASA guys down in Houston.

Plenty of talent here.
Ok but we're talking about Boeing transfers here and SA where Boeing does maintenance work would not be a good fit for transferring design engineers would it ?
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Old 04-13-2014, 12:39 PM
 
Location: South Bay
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Boeing plans to increase workforce in Long Beach, Seal Beach - latimes.com

They went from Washington State to California. Why not Tennessee or Texas?
Because they've been here in Hawthorne for years. My mom worked at the Imperial Hwy offices for 30 years.

It would be impractical for them to move from a billion dollars worth of real estate.
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In order to remain competitive, Boeing needed a restructuring – not elimination – of one portion of the union’s pension structure and some additional buy-in on health care costs. But that was clearly a bridge too far. And this came on the heels of a state-wide effort to give generous breaks and other options to the employer to keep the work in the local area, to the tune of $8.7 billion in tax incentives.

Boeing may look to Right to Work states for newest plane « Hot Air

There's always a yin to your yang
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Old 04-13-2014, 06:07 PM
 
Location: Florida
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This is good news for California and bad news for Washington State and the Unions.
Yes, the parasites in nature understand that a healthy host will feed them forever, which is why they never kill the host, but the unions have not understood this simple fact. They always end up taking so much that the host dies (or flees).
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Old 04-13-2014, 06:24 PM
 
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Heck, I'm just glad those jobs aren't going to China. Kudos
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Old 04-13-2014, 06:39 PM
 
Location: SE Arizona - FINALLY! :D
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Hard to say whether the movement of these jobs to SoCal is related to them being union jobs in Seattle since Boeing moves jobs around all the time, but the fact is, even with the shifting of these jobs to SoCal, Boeing CONTINUES to hire more union workers (in other capacities) in Seattle so the argument that it's because the jobs were union in Seattle doesn't seem to make a whole lot of sense (sorry wingnuts).

And - as I said, Boeing continues to hire many new union workers (in this case machinists) in the Seattle area even as it ships other union jobs to California:

"Boeing’s Renton plant bustling despite job cuts elsewhere

Boeing expects to hire hundreds of additional Machinists at the 737 plant even as it trims employment in other Puget Sound operations..."


Boeing’s Renton plant bustling despite job cuts elsewhere | Business & Technology | The Seattle Times

Furthermore, the movement a couple of years back of union manufacturing jobs to non-union South Carolina is now causing Boeing a whole sh*tload of problems (just as outsourcing/offshoring/subcontracting so much of the 787 work caused Boeing HUGE problems a few years back). Impossible to say of course if the fact that the work in South Carolina was done by lower-paid non-union workers has anything do with the South Carolina manufacturing problems of course - but one thing is for certain: the union workers in Seattle are now left with cleaning up the mess made by the non-union workers in South Carolina.

"Since late last year, Boeing 787 Dreamliner fuselage sections from North Charleston, S.C., have arrived at the Everett final assembly line seriously incomplete with wiring and hydraulics lines missing, according to multiple sources in the factory.

The poorly done work out of Charleston threatens to undermine the company’s plans to deliver 10 Dreamliners a month and fulfill the much-delayed jet program’s original promise.

“It’s snowballing. The planes are getting worse out of Charleston,” said one senior Everett employee who oversees the production status of the airplanes...


787 assembly problems in Charleston drag on Everett | Business & Technology | The Seattle Times

Sometimes cheaper is not the best option.

Ken

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Old 04-13-2014, 08:37 PM
 
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It didn't take long for someone to pull out the race card. Politcal correctness runs deep in your veins.
Hey, maybe you're right. This assumes that you'd be okay with the statement "they want to hire engineers not rap artists" should there have been a complaint that the jobs were being moved to California and not Atlanta nor Detroit. Are you saying that you'd be okay with that statement, not being a fan of political correctness?
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