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Old 04-20-2014, 08:46 AM
 
Location: the very edge of the continent
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Does that mean you're supposed to reject all Russian art?
Democidal government-commissioned propaganda posters? Yes.

All Russian art? No.
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Old 04-20-2014, 08:47 AM
 
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Jay Carney is a Propagandist. Is it any surprize he has a love for the biggest Propaganist Government in the last 100 years.
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Old 04-20-2014, 08:49 AM
 
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With that logic no one should post any American artwork as it supports the use of using nuclear weapons on innocent civilians.
Too broad a brush, as already noted. Use critical thinking skills.

Not all artwork has been commissioned by a democidal government. Only some has been, as noted.

Why are lefties throwing out the all or nothing red herring?

Can't defend Carney's choice to associate with a democidal government that killed 20 million of its own citizens? Hmmm...?
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Old 04-20-2014, 09:50 AM
 
Location: Venus
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We do. The First Amendment also guarantees freedom of association, the right to join or leave groups of a person's own choosing. It just so happens that Jay Carney has chosen to associate with a government group that practiced democide, killing off 20 million of its own citizens. It is well within Jay Carney's right to associate with and celebrate such a group by hanging its propaganda art in the kitchen of his home, and tout his association by displaying it in a magazine article photo of his family frolicking in his kitchen.

Guilty by association? "Are you now or have you ever been..?" I thought the Red Scare & McCarthyism died out in the '50s. What about American propaganda art? "Uncle Sam Wants You" Posters? The U.S. dropped two nuclear bombs on Hiroshima & Nagasaki. Oh right, that's ok because it wasn't its OWN citizens but citizens of another nation so therefore it is ok.




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Old 04-20-2014, 10:08 AM
 
Location: Tampa (by way of Omaha)
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We do. The First Amendment also guarantees freedom of association, the right to join or leave groups of a person's own choosing. It just so happens that Jay Carney has chosen to associate with a government group that practiced democide, killing off 20 million of its own citizens. It is well within Jay Carney's right to associate with and celebrate such a group by hanging its propaganda art in the kitchen of his home, and tout his association by displaying it in a magazine article photo of his family frolicking in his kitchen.


I have a large scale model of the Nazi battleship Bismarck in my living room. Am I therefore associating with Nazis?

(and btw, you're still probably getting trolled by Carney)
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Old 04-20-2014, 10:18 AM
 
Location: A Nation Possessed
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I certainly don't agree with him politically or ideologically, and will forever be opposed to him and his ilk.

But it's his house. He could have a signed poster of Hitler and Auschwitz on his wall and it's none of my business.
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Old 04-20-2014, 10:54 AM
 
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I have a large scale model of the Nazi battleship Bismarck in my living room. Am I therefore associating with Nazis?

(and btw, you're still probably getting trolled by Carney)
If you were doing an interview would you place this in front of you, behind you or no where in site?
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Old 04-20-2014, 10:58 AM
 
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I certainly don't agree with him politically or ideologically, and will forever be opposed to him and his ilk.

But it's his house. He could have a signed poster of Hitler and Auschwitz on his wall and it's none of my business.
I agree...........but to be interviewed with this as your background scene seems some what strange, coming from an American.
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Old 04-20-2014, 11:12 AM
 
Location: Tampa (by way of Omaha)
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If you were doing an interview would you place this in front of you, behind you or no where in site?
How about I'd leave it right where it ****ing sits?
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Old 04-20-2014, 12:26 PM
 
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How about I'd leave it right where it ****ing sits?
That logic doesnt work with righties,they'd immediately fabricate some hitler/ nazi connection. its just the way they think, this topic being a great example ,artwork from Russia? you must be a Communist.....
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