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Old 04-27-2014, 12:51 PM
 
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interesting web article:

» Black Soldiers: Cliven Bundy Is Not Racist Alex Jones' Infowars: There's a war on for your mind!

 
Old 04-27-2014, 12:54 PM
 
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Funny, I don't feel robbed by Bundy's cow patch.

Could be a subjective thing with you.

Maybe you're just envious.
Every other rancher would have to pay over 11 bucks a cow to graze on land owned by the state of Nevada. Bundy and other ranchers pay a 1 and 20 cents a cow to graze on federal land.

Bundy's family has only been on that ranch since 1949 and the BLM was created in 1946. The BLM was created from two prior agencies. US Grazing Service founded in 1936 and the General Land Office created in 1812.

That grazing land has always been federal property since the Utah Territory was created back in 1850.
 
Old 04-27-2014, 01:00 PM
 
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Every other rancher would have to pay over 11 bucks a cow to graze on land owned by the state of Nevada. Bundy and other ranchers pay a 1 and 20 cents a cow to graze on federal land.

Bundy's family has only been on that ranch since 1949 and the BLM was created in 1946. The BLM was created from two prior agencies. US Grazing Service founded in 1936 and the General Land Office created in 1812.

That grazing land has always been federal property since the Utah Territory was created back in 1850.
Lot a buffalo (bison) grazing in Yellowstone not paying fees.

They just take and take and take.

They're gonna break this great nation of ours.
 
Old 04-27-2014, 01:04 PM
 
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I wonder how long this little bit of truth lasts on this web site.

Articles: Cliven Bundy Delenda Est
Okay, saying that slavery isn't the cause of ending the black family is not the same of saying that blacks were better off during slavery than they are now.
 
Old 04-27-2014, 01:05 PM
 
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I wonder how long this little bit of truth lasts on this web site.

Articles: Cliven Bundy Delenda Est
Could be, I remember debates like that. However, Mr Bundy could be a crazy old cat lady for all I care. He doesn't effect me, but government agencies do. The BLM is on some armed over the top power trip and that freaks me out.
 
Old 04-27-2014, 01:10 PM
 
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At the end of the day, what does this have to do with the fact that he owes money to the federal government and doesn't wanna pay what he owes.

I don't give a damn what he thinks about black people...same goes for Sowell. Pay your bills like the rest of us and stop freeloading.
Well, it's not the end of the day and if he owes money to the feds, so be it, that is not the issue I am rather upset about.

I care that he is being unfairly portrayed as a racist by the lying, cheating, stealing media and hardly anyone even cares about that. The media leaves out all of the positive or charitable things he says about minorities and carefully crafts the quotes to make people think he is racist. This is bs.
 
Old 04-27-2014, 01:20 PM
 
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Wow...the "the blacks" ad hominem appeal (and subtle threat).

To that end, if Bundy was black, you can best believe that this standoff would've been OVER a long time ago. And you could forget the Fox News and rank and file conservative support. They'd be calling this what this is...freeloading.
First it's the ad hominem appeal comment, followed immediately by calling people racists. Perhaps you shouldn't complain about ad hominem attacks if you're going to make one yourself in the very next sentence.
 
Old 04-27-2014, 01:21 PM
 
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Well, it's not the end of the day and if he owes money to the feds, so be it, that is not the issue I am rather upset about.

I care that he is being unfairly portrayed as a racist by the lying, cheating, stealing media and hardly anyone even cares about that. The media leaves out all of the positive or charitable things he says about minorities and carefully crafts the quotes to make people think he is racist. This is bs.
Tell dude to pay his damn bills and no one will care about his racist quotes.
 
Old 04-27-2014, 01:24 PM
 
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Oh Bundy's whole Posse Commitas pals are racists and so is Bundy. The whole ideology of that milita movement is based in racism.

Everyone with a brain knew that the Fox News network and other Republicans were in at least a week going to start disowning Bundy. Anyone who believes in the milita movement crapola you can bet 99.9999 of them are racists *****.
Look up Bundy's bodyguard he says something completely different. Im sure the man will not be a "black man" to many.
 
Old 04-27-2014, 02:05 PM
 
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First it's the ad hominem appeal comment, followed immediately by calling people racists. Perhaps you shouldn't complain about ad hominem attacks if you're going to make one yourself in the very next sentence.
I didn't call anyone a racist. If I did, show me where I did.

BTW...the ad hominem reference by me concerned an ad hominem appeal, not an attack.
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