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Old 05-08-2014, 07:08 AM
 
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No comment on the fact that the premise of this entire thread is based on a scam by the GOP?
The Obama Admin won't be honest and open with the data. Given that, what other choice does anyone have other than to poll the insurance companies?
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Old 05-08-2014, 07:11 AM
 
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The Obama Admin won't be honest and open with the data. Given that, what other choice does anyone have other than to poll the insurance companies?
With a rigged survey.
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Old 05-08-2014, 07:14 AM
 
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With a rigged survey.
Rigged? No. If you dispute the data gathered from the insurance companies, get the Obama Admin to release all of the factual data.
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Old 05-08-2014, 07:18 AM
 
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Rigged? No. If you dispute the data gathered from the insurance companies, get the Obama Admin to release all of the factual data.
Didn't the insurance companies state yesterday that something like 80%+ had paid?
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Old 05-08-2014, 07:23 AM
 
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Didn't the insurance companies state yesterday that something like 80%+ had paid?
"Insurers saw disaster in the fall when Obamacare’s rollout flopped and HealthCare.gov was a mess. But a strong March enrollment surge, along with indications that younger and healthier people had begun signing up, has changed their attitude. Around the country, insurers are considering expanding their stake in the Obamacare exchanges next year, bringing their business to more states and counties. Some health plans that skipped the new marketplaces altogether this year are ready to dive in next year."

Insurers see brighter Obamacare skies - Kyle Cheney and Brett Norman - POLITICO.com

Does anyone honestly believe insurance companies would be expanding their presence in the exchanges if only 67 percent of enrollees had paid? This thread is based on nothing more than the same old Conservative/Fox News propaganda.
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Old 05-08-2014, 07:23 AM
 
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The insurance companies are saying more like 80-90% have paid.
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Old 05-08-2014, 07:34 AM
 
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The insurance companies are saying more like 80-90% have paid.
Yes, that is the point I am making. Cons have made up a story about the administration "covering up" the real numbers -- an accusation only supported by their own opinion -- and then set up a rigged survey which, not surprisingly, delivered flawed data.

Now we're back at the beginning of the circle with posters on this thread explaining away the entire thing by repeating their original complaint about the administration with … still no evidence other than their own fantasies.

Wash, rinse, repeat. It works with the base, anyway.
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Old 05-08-2014, 07:36 AM
 
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No comment on the fact that the premise of this entire thread is based on a scam by the GOP?
Obama/Sebelious have deceived and lied so often that the misleading House Committee report doesn't bother me as much as it normally would. A goose/gander thing.

Major insurers testified that 80%-90% of enrollees have paid.

Most people paid Obamacare premiums - May. 7, 2014
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Old 05-08-2014, 07:39 AM
 
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Whats wrong with taking the data from the insurance companies? They are going to know who paid and who didnt. They are going to know before Healthcare.gov. This reminds me of the birthers and the birth certificate. I bet you could show most of the ACA critics 100 million cancelled checks and they still wouldnt be satisfied.

The insurers speak: Yes, people are paying their Obamacare premiums*-*Los Angeles Times
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Old 05-08-2014, 07:42 AM
 
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Didn't the insurance companies state yesterday that something like 80%+ had paid?
That is what i heard also.
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