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Originally Posted by pghquest
You dont consider humanitarian assistance as support? You dont consider training Iraqi's to provide their own security as support? Please tell me when these organizations went into Iraq.. I'd be willing to bet the timing, is pretty darn close to after our invasion, not before.
Their assistance is to the Iraqis whose country has been invaded, that doesn't necessarily mean they support the invaders.
Here's just a quick blurb of one method the US used to generate 'support':
Washington, 11 December 2003 (RFE/RL) -- Companies in Britain, Italy, Poland, and Spain stand to earn a good part of the $18 billion that the United States is willing to spend on the reconstruction of Iraq, according to a newly released Pentagon document. But companies in Canada, France, Germany, and Russia do not
For months, the administration of U.S. President George W. Bush has been hinting that countries that did not support the invasion of Iraq would pay a price. Now the Defense Department has published a list of the nations whose companies are eligible to bid on lucrative contracts for rebuilding Iraq. Conspicuously absent are Canada, France, Germany, and Russia, which all opposed the U.S.-led war. RFE/RL spoke with international affairs analysts who say punishing these countries is unwarranted and may give credibility to critics who question Bush's motives for the invasion. .
Believe whatever you like.
I've always believed there's another name for a 'friend' whose 'friendship' is bought and paid for: W*H*O*R*E
You dont consider humanitarian assistance as support? You dont consider training Iraqi's to provide their own security as support? Please tell me when these organizations went into Iraq.. I'd be willing to bet the timing, is pretty darn close to after our invasion, not before.
These posters can't deal with the reality that Clinton is considered a joke world-wide and has never been taken seriously. Meanwhile Bush forms the largest coalition that the planet has ever seen and yet the loony left claim his actions in Iraq have been "unilateral." ROFLMAO!
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These posters can't deal with the reality that Clinton is considered a joke world-wide and has never been taken seriously. Meanwhile Bush forms the largest coalition that the planet has ever seen and yet the loony left claim his actions in Iraq have been "unilateral." ROFLMAO!
The reality many seem to have a problem dealing with is the large difference between paid companions and allies with a common cause.
A 47-nation survey finds global public opinion increasingly wary of the world's dominant nations and disapproving of their leaders. Anti-Americanism is extensive, as it has been for the past five years. At the same time, the image of China has slipped significantly among the publics of other major nations. Opinion about Russia is mixed, but confidence in its president, Vladimir Putin, has declined sharply. In fact, the Russian leader's negatives have soared to the point that they mirror the nearly worldwide lack of confidence in George W. Bush.
Global distrust of American leadership is reflected in increasing disapproval of the cornerstones of U.S. foreign policy. Not only is there worldwide support for a withdrawal of U.S. troops from Iraq, but there also is considerable opposition to U.S. and NATO operations in Afghanistan. Western European publics are at best divided about keeping troops there. In nearly every predominantly Muslim country, overwhelming majorities want U.S. and NATO troops withdrawn from Afghanistan as soon as possible. In addition, global support for the U.S.-led war on terrorism ebbs ever lower.
And about 10,000 troops. 5000 are English (half leaving soon), 1200 are South Korean, 900 are Polish, and the other 3000 are split up among the remaining 35 countries.
Still a far cry from the "we are going it alone" mantra the left has been screaming. We have support now and had a larger amount of support at the start so we certainly didn't "go it alone".
That being said, this could just mean we weren't the only ones who were wrong.
A 47-nation survey finds global public opinion increasingly wary of the world's dominant nations and disapproving of their leaders. Anti-Americanism is extensive, as it has been for the past five years. At the same time, the image of China has slipped significantly among the publics of other major nations. Opinion about Russia is mixed, but confidence in its president, Vladimir Putin, has declined sharply. In fact, the Russian leader's negatives have soared to the point that they mirror the nearly worldwide lack of confidence in George W. Bush.
Global distrust of American leadership is reflected in increasing disapproval of the cornerstones of U.S. foreign policy. Not only is there worldwide support for a withdrawal of U.S. troops from Iraq, but there also is considerable opposition to U.S. and NATO operations in Afghanistan. Western European publics are at best divided about keeping troops there. In nearly every predominantly Muslim country, overwhelming majorities want U.S. and NATO troops withdrawn from Afghanistan as soon as possible. In addition, global support for the U.S.-led war on terrorism ebbs ever lower.
We should withdraw from Iraq long before we withdraw from Afghanistan. We also need to hold the Pakistani's more accountable and make them more aggressive in their attempts to help us rid the Taliban and get OBL.
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