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Old 06-05-2014, 04:22 PM
 
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The main problem is that there isn't really a Nigeria. Or rather, there's Yoruba, Igbo, Hausa & then lots of smaller ethnic/religious/cultural/tribal/linguistic Nigerian groupings. The Yoruba & Igbo, mostly on the coast, mostly Christian, have had longer contact with the West, & form the bulk of government, military, educators, media, judiciary, police, business, etc. The Hausa are Islamic, inner country, & opposed to Western influence in general. For 5 years now, Boko Haram has been struggling to implement sharia in the northern part of Nigeria.

The oil money has mostly gone to line the pockets of the related ministers & government officials. There's enough money there to resolve problems & hire expertise - if that's needed. But there's no apparent understanding of the country as a whole - & no one with weight appears to be trying to pull the country together. There's plenty of domestic toxicity in Nigeria - conspiracies aren't necessary.

Whether Nigeria can pull together and resolve their political issues and divvy up the mineral wealth to move the entire nation forward - that's the question.

The US - & the West in general - could fairly easily track down the missing girls & rescue them & kill most of Boko's cadre. But is that in our long-term interest? Long term, Nigeria needs to decide what they want their future to look like - & they need to take the steps they need to to get there.
This is actually the Hausas. Hausas have the most political power in Nigeria.

 
Old 06-05-2014, 05:52 PM
 
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This is actually the Hausas. Hausas have the most political power in Nigeria.

The sources I looked @ say the Hausas in Nigeria are mostly in the north, have had less contact with the West (than other Nigerian groupings), are mostly Islamic. See Hausa people - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia - for instance. The guide to W. Africa I looked at said much the same thing.

Location - in this case - seems to have made a difference in the groupings' relationships with and attitudes to the West in general.
 
Old 06-05-2014, 06:10 PM
 
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The sources I looked @ say the Hausas in Nigeria are mostly in the north, have had less contact with the West (than other Nigerian groupings), are mostly Islamic. See Hausa people - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia - for instance. The guide to W. Africa I looked at said much the same thing.

Location - in this case - seems to have made a difference in the groupings' relationships with and attitudes to the West in general.
Yes, the Hausas have shunned westernization for Islamism. However, there is a Hausa elite that have a lot of control. The vast majority of Hausas are poor.
 
Old 06-09-2014, 09:12 AM
 
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Yes, the Hausas have shunned westernization for Islamism. However, there is a Hausa elite that have a lot of control. The vast majority of Hausas are poor.
Once again its members of the crackhead nubian olmec demigraphic that are going around cheer leading US military invasion and occupation, and yet deluded enough to call others sellouts and traitors.

With "friends" like the nubian olmecs, who needs external enemies.

At least there are still cats like Glen Ford of the Black Agenda Report.

"Glen Ford is a distinguished radio-show host and commentator. In 1977, Ford co-launched, produced and hosted America's Black Forum, the first nationally syndicated Black news interview program on commercial television. In 1987, Ford launched Rap It Up, the first nationally syndicated Hip Hop music show, broadcast on 65 radio stations. Ford co-founded the Black Commentator in 2002 and in 2006 he launched the Black Agenda Report. Ford is also the author of The Big Lie: An Analysis of U.S. Media Coverage of the Grenada Invasion."

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And again, NOT IN SUPPORT OF ATTACKS ON CIVILIAN NON-COMBATANTS.
 
Old 06-30-2014, 01:25 PM
 
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Once again its members of the crackhead nubian olmec demigraphic that are going around cheer leading US military invasion and occupation, and yet deluded enough to call others sellouts and traitors.

With "friends" like the nubian olmecs, who needs external enemies. "
Think I've got the nubian olmecs figured out.

The tools and fools of one world gubbermint imperialists can come in all shapes and guises.

Check out this book and this one (p. 18).
 
Old 07-01-2014, 11:44 AM
 
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With friends like this,..., well y'know the rest:

"However, like in Iraq, Afghanistan and so many other places that fell apart while being democratized and stabilized by the U.S. (one also thinks of Libya, itself part of the African continent), the rush to mediagenic proclamations without addressing the underlying fundamentals led only to catastrophe. A scant few years later, South Sudan is at the brink of civil war and societal collapse, the U.S. is evacuating another embassy and indeed one variety or another of “rebels” are shooting at U.S. military aircraft arriving in their country in violation of their national sovereignty. Those who believe that the U.S. efforts in South Sudan do not involve special forces on the ground and drones overhead no doubt will have a nice Christmas waiting up to catch a glimpse of Santa.

In the case of Africa, the U.S. investment has been a disaster. Chaos has replaced stability in many places, and terrorists have found homes in countries they may have once never imagined. The U.S., in sad echo of 19th century colonialism, has militarized another region of the world.

Every rebel and terrorist the U.S. kills creates more, radicalizes more, gives the bad guys another propaganda lede. The more we kill, the more there seem to be to kill. America needs fewer people saying they are victims of America. The Chinese are building cultural ties and signing deals all over Africa, and we’re just throwing up barbed wire. Why?"

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And again, NOT IN SUPPORT OF ATTACKS ON CIVILIAN NON-COMBATANTS.
 
Old 07-15-2014, 03:06 PM
 
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Even if they may currently have one world gubbermint favor now, don't be surprised once they start making money, the imperialist media will start screaming and shouting about "humanitarian intervention".

"Senegal is days away from launching sub-Saharan Africa’s biggest sukuk, with the CHF100bn ($208m) bond expected to receive strong investor demand and create further momentum for sovereigns and banks in the region to offer Islamic financial products.

The sukuk will also be of interest to other sub-Saharan African countries with significant Muslim populations of their own, making them natural candidates to issue sharia-compliant bonds and other products, analysts say. Sub-Saharan Africa’s Muslim population is growing rapidly and is expected to reach 385.9m in 2030, a 60 per cent increase from 2010, according to the Pew Research Centre.

Malaysia and Gulf states are the most dominant issuers, but newcomers such as Turkey, Nigeria and South Africa have the potential to become regional hubs for Islamic finance, Standard and Poor’s said in a 2012 report.

Islamic bond issuance in sub-Saharan African so far has been modest as few countries have the legal and regulatory frameworks in place to ensure a steady pipeline of sukuk issuance, analysts say. Sudan issued a local sukuk worth about $168m in 2012, Nigeria’s Osun State sold a $62m instrument last September and Gambia issues short-term sukuk weekly."


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And for the record, NEITHER I OR ANY OF THE ARTICLES POSTED CONDONE ATTACKS ON CIVILIAN NONCOMBATANTS.
 
Old 07-26-2014, 02:24 PM
 
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I highly recommend checking out Naomi Klein's Shock Doctrine theory.

The type of capitalism one world gubbermint imperialists practice is not what Adam Smith advocated for.

The one world gubbermint imperialists create disaster and chaos wherever they go.

They are the worst examples of capitalists and in fact should not dare use that name.

I hope those of you from Emerging Economies take a look at this video and take a look at the posters in this thread. Really read what these posters are saying and take it heart.

Like I stated before, tools and fools of one world gubbermint imperialist come in all shapes and guises and even if you don't want to join blocs like the BRICS, at least give a imperialist the finger when they try to convince you of the benefits of being an imperial bend over buddy.

Without further adieu Naomi:

"NAOMI KLEIN: Remaking people, shocking them into obedience. This is a story about that powerful idea. In the 1950s, it caught the attention of the CIA. The agency funded a series of experiments. Out of them was produced a secret handbook on how to break down prisoners. The key was using shock to reduce adults to a childlike state.

NAOMI KLEIN: But these techniques don’t only work on individuals; they can work on whole societies: A collective trauma, a war, a coup, a natural disaster, a terrorist attack puts us all into a state of shock. And in the aftermath, like the prisoner in the interrogation chamber, we, too, become childlike, more inclined to follow leaders who claim to protect us.

NAOMI KLEIN: And it’s not claiming that right-wingers in a contemporary age are the only people who have ever exploited crisis, because this idea of exploiting a crisis is not unique to this particular ideology. Fascists have done it. State communists have done it. But this is an attempt to better understand the ideology that we live with, the dominant ideology of our time, which is unfettered market economics."
 
Old 07-28-2014, 12:30 PM
 
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Even if they may currently have one world gubbermint favor now, don't be surprised once they start making money, the imperialist media will start screaming and shouting about "humanitarian intervention".

"Senegal is days away from launching sub-Saharan Africa’s biggest sukuk, with the CHF100bn ($208m) bond expected to receive strong investor demand and create further momentum for sovereigns and banks in the region to offer Islamic financial products.

The sukuk will also be of interest to other sub-Saharan African countries with significant Muslim populations of their own, making them natural candidates to issue sharia-compliant bonds and other products, analysts say. Sub-Saharan Africa’s Muslim population is growing rapidly and is expected to reach 385.9m in 2030, a 60 per cent increase from 2010, according to the Pew Research Centre.

Malaysia and Gulf states are the most dominant issuers, but newcomers such as Turkey, Nigeria and South Africa have the potential to become regional hubs for Islamic finance, Standard and Poor’s said in a 2012 report.

Islamic bond issuance in sub-Saharan African so far has been modest as few countries have the legal and regulatory frameworks in place to ensure a steady pipeline of sukuk issuance, analysts say. Sudan issued a local sukuk worth about $168m in 2012, Nigeria’s Osun State sold a $62m instrument last September and Gambia issues short-term sukuk weekly."
I hope the Maghrib Al Aqsa (Furthest Maghreb) also has a back up plan for when AFRICOM comes knocking on the door.

"Many of the Mena countries are pushing to become more of a financial hub, with Morocco leading the charge by renaming the Moroccan Financial Board the Casablanca Finance City Authority to help position the city as an international financial centre.

This is a strategy that appears to be working, with Casablanca appearing in the latest Global Financial Centre Index in March for the first time at number 62 out of 83. In total there were nine Mena financial centres in the index, with Tel Aviv in Israel ranked the highest at 21. Five of the eight returning centres also saw a move higher up the index.


In an environment where the developed world is in a fragile recovery and the traditional emerging markets are facing continued headwinds, the Mena region could be the next investment powerhouse."
 
Old 07-28-2014, 03:30 PM
 
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There's no doubt that what Boko Haram committed is reprehensible and is an act of terrorism. However, what do people expect to accomplish with starting Twitter hashtags and social media campaigns? None of that is going to convince an extremist group in a remote region of Nigeria to return these innocent girls back their parents and community. What are people expecting? Do they want an arms invasion of Nigeria? It's funny because these same campaigns were started by the same people who decried US use of drones, which are part of intelligence they're calling for to help return these girls. In order to take down Boko Haram, there would have to be military intervention. The Nigerian government has already deemed itself incompetent in doing so. The only solution is for a foreign power to intervene, something lefties rage against constantly.
Like everything else out of Nigeria this is most likely could be a scam.
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