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Old 06-04-2014, 06:52 AM
 
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Originally Posted by Tundra Boy View Post
"Ask not what your country can do for you..." ~ John Kennedy



I think the liberals should stop claiming him at this point, whatever he was, you guys are nothing like him.





Tb
JFK would never be considered by today's Republicans as a Republican or conservative. The idea that he would is absurd.

 
Old 06-04-2014, 06:54 AM
 
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Originally Posted by EricS39 View Post
Kind of sad. All the accomplishments of Liberals I can go on and on...are buried in the sand

1) Liberals and unions gave America Saturday and Sunday off

2) Liberals gave Medicare for the elderly and social security safety net for retirees

3) Liberals desegregated the Deep South and made Civil Rights work by Liberal people registering black voters

4) Liberals (Kennedy) saved America from the Cuban Missile Crisis

5) Liberals protected the rights of Americans with Disabilities

6) Liberals helped diversify higher education by passing Affirmative Action

7) Liberals helped make it free as of this year to receive preventive healthcare coverage

8) Liberal administration captured Osama

9) Liberals stopped the fighting in Kosovo

10) Liberals ended marital discrimination based on sexual preference

Liberals have accomplished real stuff

Liberals also helped narrow the deficit by passing Alternative Minimum Tax (AMT) which brings lots of Govt revenue in

Liberals also under Carter were leaders of cruise missile for national defense

Under open minded LBJ Govt NASA program an American crew made first landing on the moon...one small step for a man, one giant leap for Liberal
Now please list their many failures. Let's start with #1. The destruction of the Black Family and consequent rise of a very large Black prison population.

You next....
 
Old 06-04-2014, 07:07 AM
 
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Originally Posted by EricS39 View Post
Kind of sad. All the accomplishments of Liberals I can go on and on...are buried in the sand

1) Liberals and unions gave America Saturday and Sunday off

2) Liberals gave Medicare for the elderly and social security safety net for retirees

3) Liberals desegregated the Deep South and made Civil Rights work by Liberal people registering black voters

4) Liberals (Kennedy) saved America from the Cuban Missile Crisis

5) Liberals protected the rights of Americans with Disabilities

6) Liberals helped diversify higher education by passing Affirmative Action

7) Liberals helped make it free as of this year to receive preventive healthcare coverage

8) Liberal administration captured Osama

9) Liberals stopped the fighting in Kosovo

10) Liberals ended marital discrimination based on sexual preference

Liberals have accomplished real stuff

Liberals also helped narrow the deficit by passing Alternative Minimum Tax (AMT) which brings lots of Govt revenue in

Liberals also under Carter were leaders of cruise missile for national defense

Under open minded LBJ Govt NASA program an American crew made first landing on the moon...one small step for a man, one giant leap for Liberal

#3 Liberals (democrats) opposed civil rights

#4 Kennedy invivted disaster by the failed Bay of Pigs Invasion. Giving him credit for brining the world to the brink of nuclear war due to failed policy is not a success.

#6 Affirmative action is, and has been, discrimination against citizens due to race. Fortunately, it is being defeated piecemeal in courts, as its practice is illegal.

#7 No healthcare is "free". Other citizens pay for "free" healthcare in the form of higher taxes and higher premiums for themselves.

#8 Obama did not capture Bin Laden- special forces did.

#9 Liberals attacked one side (Christians) in a war in which atrocities were committed on both sides. The US "intervention" was on behalf of Muslims who were supporters of the Nazis in WWII (having provided an SS division) and persecuted the Christians. The "intervention" was an attempt to relieve attention from domestic problems in the Clinton admin and was shameful.

#10 Many would consider "gay marriage" to be a negative, not a positive.



Liberals have destroyed America by-

1. higher taxes

2. welfare

3. destruction of the family

4. promotion of single parent families

5. WIC

6. Affirmative action

7. drug culture

8. violence in the media and entertainment

9. attacks on Christianity and morality

10. destroying the middle class via NAFTA and China most favored nation trade policies

11. Preventing US energy independece by opposition to exploration on federal lands

12. war on coal

13. Unregulations via the EPA hampering business

14. reducing the standard of living in the US by "open door" immigration policy

15. Obamacare

16. selective enforcement of federal law

17. massive increases in federal spending which have fiscally doomed the nation



What good have liberals done? Helping to clean the environment; however, now the EPA has gone to far and is used as an unregulated fourth branch of the government to advance left wing political agendas.
 
Old 06-04-2014, 07:33 AM
 
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Originally Posted by hawkeye2009 View Post
#3 Liberals (democrats) opposed civil rights

#4 Kennedy invivted disaster by the failed Bay of Pigs Invasion. Giving him credit for brining the world to the brink of nuclear war due to failed policy is not a success.

#6 Affirmative action is, and has been, discrimination against citizens due to race. Fortunately, it is being defeated piecemeal in courts, as its practice is illegal.

#7 No healthcare is "free". Other citizens pay for "free" healthcare in the form of higher taxes and higher premiums for themselves.

#8 Obama did not capture Bin Laden- special forces did.

#9 Liberals attacked one side (Christians) in a war in which atrocities were committed on both sides. The US "intervention" was on behalf of Muslims who were supporters of the Nazis in WWII (having provided an SS division) and persecuted the Christians. The "intervention" was an attempt to relieve attention from domestic problems in the Clinton admin and was shameful.

#10 Many would consider "gay marriage" to be a negative, not a positive.



Liberals have destroyed America by-

1. higher taxes

2. welfare

3. destruction of the family

4. promotion of single parent families

5. WIC

6. Affirmative action

7. drug culture

8. violence in the media and entertainment

9. attacks on Christianity and morality

10. destroying the middle class via NAFTA and China most favored nation trade policies

11. Preventing US energy independece by opposition to exploration on federal lands

12. war on coal

13. Unregulations via the EPA hampering business

14. reducing the standard of living in the US by "open door" immigration policy

15. Obamacare

16. selective enforcement of federal law

17. massive increases in federal spending which have fiscally doomed the nation



What good have liberals done? Helping to clean the environment; however, now the EPA has gone to far and is used as an unregulated fourth branch of the government to advance left wing political agendas.
Excellent post.
 
Old 06-04-2014, 07:37 AM
 
Location: A Nation Possessed
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Originally Posted by HyperionGap View Post
While the Republican Party of today is exactly like it was during Reagan right?
This is what you might call a "straw man." Did I mention the Republican Party? That's another topic for another thread.
 
Old 06-04-2014, 07:40 AM
 
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Originally Posted by EricS39 View Post
Kind of sad. All the accomplishments of Liberals I can go on and on...are buried in the sand

1) Liberals and unions gave America Saturday and Sunday off

2) Liberals gave Medicare for the elderly and social security safety net for retirees

3) Liberals desegregated the Deep South and made Civil Rights work by Liberal people registering black voters

4) Liberals (Kennedy) saved America from the Cuban Missile Crisis

5) Liberals protected the rights of Americans with Disabilities

6) Liberals helped diversify higher education by passing Affirmative Action

7) Liberals helped make it free as of this year to receive preventive healthcare coverage

8) Liberal administration captured Osama

9) Liberals stopped the fighting in Kosovo

10) Liberals ended marital discrimination based on sexual preference

Liberals have accomplished real stuff

Liberals also helped narrow the deficit by passing Alternative Minimum Tax (AMT) which brings lots of Govt revenue in

Liberals also under Carter were leaders of cruise missile for national defense

Under open minded LBJ Govt NASA program an American crew made first landing on the moon...one small step for a man, one giant leap for Liberal
The link is from a black blogger.
http://www.black-and-right.com/the-democrat-race-lie/
 
Old 06-04-2014, 07:40 AM
 
Location: A Nation Possessed
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Originally Posted by dsjj251 View Post
I do love how Conservatives/Republicans like to tell us Liberals what we believe in.

I also find it funny that you choose to believe you know what the Founding Fathers would have wanted in 2014.

Since the Founding Fathers died, we have quadrupled the size of this nation,let women and black people vote, gone to space, Split the atom, explored the oceans, eliminated diseases.

If the Founding Fathers were alive, they would have a heart attack from simply seeing a mechanical pencil.
Another straw man.

Frankly, I don't care what you believe. That's your business. It's what you do to me that is of concern. Other that that, it doesn't matter to me what you do.
 
Old 06-04-2014, 07:41 AM
 
Location: Austin
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Liberal "successes" always involve control by elites at the top, and dumb followers at the bottom who support the liberal agendas because it makes them feel morally superior.

Their "successes" include everything from population control, to ban the bomb, to limits of growth, to recycling, to funny light bulbs, to global warming, to quotas, to price controls, to bailouts, to stimulus spending, to green energy, to bike helmets, to nuclear winter, to hair weaving regulations, to offshore drilling, to ANWAR drilling, to the XM Pipeline, to the blocked Boeing plant in South Carolina, to expanded disability, etc, etc, etc.

The list of Liberal "successes" will never be completed because there are still so many unregulated activities still erroneously permitted to the citizens. I expect that we will have a cabinet level department of Hangnails and Ingrown Toenails before the liberal successes are completed.
 
Old 06-04-2014, 08:15 AM
 
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Originally Posted by EricS39 View Post
Kind of sad. All the accomplishments of Liberals I can go on and on...are buried in the sand

1) Liberals and unions gave America Saturday and Sunday off
Dont need to go any further than this to realise the posting is full of crap.

Free market capitalism gave americas saturday and sunday off. A 40 hour work week was becoming the industry standard prior to unions even obtaining legal authority to unionize in this country.

THREAD FAIL...
 
Old 06-04-2014, 08:23 AM
 
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JFK was liberal? The man whose greatest quote is "My fellow Americans, ask not what your country can do for you, ask what you can do for your country"?

That is pretty much the exact opposite of what modern Liberalism preaches. They have made giving away money, food, housing, healthcare, etc. a core part of their identity; buying votes by offering largesse in exchange for support.
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