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Old 06-06-2014, 01:30 PM
 
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Hilary admitted to voting to go into Iraq and Afghanistan.... VOTED.
It was not GW. Acting like Obama the dictator and sending in the troops without the approval of the people(congress)
The B.S. you're shoveling is getting ankle deep at the moment. Shovel it back you way, since you seem to like it. Many/most of us writing here were alive, and we know full well who did what. Bush/Cheney own those wars, and they own the economic crisis ... and the VA scandal ... and so on, and so on.
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Old 06-06-2014, 01:36 PM
 
Location: Los Angeles
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The B.S. you're shoveling is getting ankle deep at the moment. Shovel it back you way, since you seem to like it. Many/most of us writing here were alive, and we know full well who did what. Bush/Cheney own those wars, and they own the economic crisis ... and the VA scandal ... and so on, and so on.
Description: To authorize the use of United States Armed Forces against those responsible for the recent attacks launched against the United States.

Question: On Passage Bill Number: H J RES 64
Date: 2001-09-14
Yea
Republicans 214
Democrats206

Nay
Democrats 1


Apparently you do not know who owns what, because only 1 democrat did not vote for the Afghan war.

And, far more soldiers have been killed and wounded under Obama than under Bush, because of his ridiculous rules of engagement policies.
http://www.justforeignpolicy.org/obamavsbush
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Old 06-06-2014, 01:36 PM
 
Location: The Republic of Texas
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VA is one of the country's most cost-effective health care programs. Switching to private care would mean less care for the money.


Cost effective= less care, with months on a wait list. The UK is very similar, unless you are the wealthy elite.
Less care with private healthcare? Less? Ya, for the money. Our Vets should be well taken care of... Then your have your idea of cost effective. Get rid of all the bureaucratic hands that are between the doctor and the veteran and it may be cost effective.

I got hernia surgery, the day after diagnosis. I waited 18 hours. Not months. That is cost effective.
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Old 06-06-2014, 01:46 PM
 
Location: The Republic of Texas
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The B.S. you're shoveling is getting ankle deep at the moment. Shovel it back you way, since you seem to like it. Many/most of us writing here were alive, and we know full well who did what. Bush/Cheney own those wars, and they own the economic crisis ... and the VA scandal ... and so on, and so on.

No need to attack me about it. I'm not the enemy.


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Originally Posted by BentBow
Hilary admitted to voting to go into Iraq and Afghanistan.... VOTED.
It was not GW. Acting like Obama the dictator and sending in the troops without the approval of the people(congress)

What BS? Hilary admits to it in her new book coming out.

Wasn't it Obama drawing red lines that were crossed?
Bush had the decency to constitutionally ask congress, what the peoples districts wanted.
Paul & Kucinch were the only no don't do it, votes.
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Old 06-06-2014, 01:49 PM
 
Location: Buckeye, AZ
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I can't wait until 2017 when Republicans stop talking about Obama forever.
Not gonna happen. People still complain about Reagan, Carter, Bush Sr, Clinton, Bush Jr. and I am sure even Washington, Adams, Jefferson, Lincoln and both Roosevelts.
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Old 06-06-2014, 03:01 PM
 
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How ever did we expect anything less from the Purple Pill Lady! You think the stamp on " Blame Bush" would be warn out by now!
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Old 06-06-2014, 03:04 PM
 
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The Bush/Cheney apologists ... the revisionists ... would like us to forget the Bush/Cheney lies about weapons of mass destruction and how those assertions and promises of evidence were what the Congress acted upon when voting for the Iraq war. Pointing the finger elsewhere is an exercise in lunacy.
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Old 06-06-2014, 03:11 PM
 
Location: Central Texas
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The Congresswoman is correct. But that doesn't mean that the Obama administration is guilt-free. The root cause of the currrent problems are easily traced back to Bush/Cheney. As a result of Iraq/Afghan wars, primarily ... daily visits to VA facilities have risen by 50% to more than 200,000 a day. The problems at the VA aren't at every facility, they're at the facilities seeing the biggest patient demands. Congress has some responsibility, as well - for not exercising oversight, for not responding to reports of problems, etc. There's enough 'blame' to go around.
Since Obama was elected Pelosi has had six years to deal with this. It isn't as if Obama, who set the timetables for withdrawal and other troop movements, had no clue there would be more demand for VA services.

Obama put an administrator in charge - who is apparently a good man otherwise - that had no clue these problems were happening.

You can assign blame to Bush for the wars, but not these problems, which were not in his budgets and were affected by military decisions Obama made. No way is Bush to blame for VA administrators lying and manipulating data to earn bonuses.
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Old 06-06-2014, 03:12 PM
 
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The B.S. you're shoveling is getting ankle deep at the moment. Shovel it back you way, since you seem to like it. Many/most of us writing here were alive, and we know full well who did what. Bush/Cheney own those wars, and they own the economic crisis ... and the VA scandal ... and so on, and so on.
You defiantly have your feelings about President Bush and Dick Cheney. But Bush did not own that war. The Congress authorized Military action and all the Dems at the time voted for it.

Dashel ,Harry Reid , Chris Dodd, Maxine Waters, Hilary Clinton, Chuck Schumer and the cast of Clown we call Dems.

Bush turned a down economy into one of the most strongest with a all high on the GNP of 5% (versed Obama's 1%)

Dems Liked about Fanny Mae and Mac (Dodd, Franks and Waters) which in the combination of bad banking the bubble hit in 2008.

President Bush and VP Cheney is no longer in Office, if you have forgotten. President Obama has been worming his way the past 6 years and see where that has got us!

By the way this the second time President Obama has been neglectful of Veterans.
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Old 06-06-2014, 03:15 PM
 
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The VA health care scandal goes back to 1917 ... I don't think Bush of Pelosi were around then.
No she didn't buy her way into politics yet.
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