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At about 2:25 he says I'm reading a quadruple failure it has to be an instrumentation problem.
That is what it sounds like to me when you say you'll take the science. The sea ice is going away. That is heating up Greenland. That should accelerate the ice loss. Keep doubling the ice loss every 5 years and how long does it take to go away?
Not entirely true....The average thickness of arctic sea ice is less than three meters, whereas Greenland's ice cap averages 2.3 km, and at it's thickest measures 4.3 km. Which do you think will win the race?
I'm guessing all that ice melting into the ocean will cause sea levels to continue rising in exactly the same way it has for the past twenty thousand years.
Twenty thousand years ago Toledo, Ohio was under an ice sheet one mile thick.
Not entirely true....The average thickness of arctic sea ice is less than three meters, whereas Greenland's ice cap averages 2.3 km, and at it's thickest measures 4.3 km. Which do you think will win the race?
The sea ice of course. But the soonest the computer models said we would be where are now as far as sea ice goes was in 50 years.
So how much faster than their models is the ice sheet going to go in?
I do believe it is this glacier that has started to move significantly just in the last 5 years.
More implications.
In 2012 there was a melting event where 97% of the ice surface experienced melting.
Surface melting turns into base heating by having the melt water run through the intervening ice. This puts the lag from heat input at the surface to raising the base temperature to the local melting point from the time it takes to conduct the heat through the ice sheet, to the time it takes water to run through the ice sheet.
One research group watched on their interments as a melt water lake drained in 90 min. to bedrock. The rate of water flow was greater than Niagara falls for that 1 1/2 hr.
Conclusion, surface melting throws out all prior modeling on base heating by geothermal input. You can assume the base temp everywhere you have surface melting to be the local melting temp of water.
With the Artic Sea Ice going away you are going to have extensive melting on Greenland's ice sheet. Everywhere you have extensive and prolonged melting on the surface you will raise the base temp to the local melting point.
The ice sheet is going to start moving much faster than it has been.
Go with the flow, and quit trying to use a dumb construct as an excuse for a global tax system.
Buy up Greenland cheap and plant potatoes on it.
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