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Old 06-10-2014, 12:00 AM
 
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"If we were to double the rate at which CO2 in the atmosphere is increasing in comparison to the last 30 years, it would still take well over a century to get to just two degrees of warming from CO2. If we tripled the rate, it would take almost four centuries to get to three degrees."

CO2 is Logarithmic Explained | Knowledge Drift; The Science of Human Error
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Old 06-10-2014, 02:04 AM
 
Location: Victoria, BC.
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"If we were to double the rate at which CO2 in the atmosphere is increasing in comparison to the last 30 years, it would still take well over a century to get to just two degrees of warming from CO2. If we tripled the rate, it would take almost four centuries to get to three degrees."

CO2 is Logarithmic Explained | Knowledge Drift; The Science of Human Error
I would check this guy's figures if I were you...He claims that the temperature increase since pre-industrial days is only .5 degrees C, when in fact it is .85 degrees C (1.53F)...That makes his calculations useless. Who is this guy anyway....Not a scientist I'll bet.
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Old 06-10-2014, 05:39 AM
 
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I would check this guy's figures if I were you...He claims that the temperature increase since pre-industrial days is only .5 degrees C, when in fact it is .85 degrees C (1.53F)...That makes his calculations useless. Who is this guy anyway....Not a scientist I'll bet.

Actually the number he uses is 0.6 and that "over the last century" what I see is about 0.7 from 1900, but that's using GHCN v3 and we all know that's horse ****.

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"If the rough estimates of CO2 doubling = 3.7 watts per square meter = 1 degree plus 2 more from water vapour were correct, we would have seen a temperature increase over the last century of 2.1 degrees, but we’ve only seen 0.6 degrees."




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Old 06-10-2014, 05:41 AM
 
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The effects of global warming have just barely begun.
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Old 06-10-2014, 06:02 AM
 
Location: Dallas
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Who is this guy anyway....Not a scientist I'll bet.
That's obvious. He couldn't be a scientist if he does not agree with your agenda. Correct?
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Old 06-10-2014, 06:03 AM
 
Location: Dallas
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The effects of global warming have just barely begun.
The effects of global warming have been quite obvious for thousands of years. Have you read about the ice age?
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Old 06-10-2014, 06:15 AM
 
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That's obvious. He couldn't be a scientist if he does not agree with your agenda. Correct?
Ha! Great comeback! So true! Anyone who disagrees with the dogma is either not a real scientist or one that is in the pocket of big oil.
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Old 06-10-2014, 06:20 AM
 
Location: Chicago
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"If we were to double the rate at which CO2 in the atmosphere is increasing in comparison to the last 30 years, it would still take well over a century to get to just two degrees of warming from CO2. If we tripled the rate, it would take almost four centuries to get to three degrees."

CO2 is Logarithmic Explained | Knowledge Drift; The Science of Human Error
Try to get your information about climate science from peer-reviewed scientific journals, not random websites.
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Old 06-10-2014, 06:32 AM
 
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Try to get your information about climate science from peer-reviewed scientific journals, not random websites.
Yeah because peer review is NEVER biased or corrupted and driven by activism, right?

"I can't see either of these papers being in the next IPCC report. Kevin and I will keep
them out somehow – even if we have to redefine what the peer-review literature is!"
Phil Jones professor- Instrumental climate change, paleoclimatology
University of East Anglia
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Old 06-10-2014, 06:40 AM
 
Location: Oklahoma
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Ha! Great comeback! So true! Anyone who disagrees with the dogma is either not a real scientist or one that is in the pocket of big oil.
That's because generally it's true. If denialists can claim that real scientists fudge their data so they can get grant money then it stands to reason that scientists being funded by big oil fudge their data so they can get money from the oil companies.

The difference here is that the oil company guys really don't collect any data. They just try to critique the findings of those who do.

Meanwhile some random unidentified blogger demonstrates that he took Trig somewhere along the way and that now "evidence" .
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