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Old 06-10-2014, 06:49 AM
 
Location: Dallas
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The difference here is that the oil company guys really don't collect any data. They just try to critique the findings of those who do.
My guess is that 97% of all GW alarmist scientists have never collected any data either. They just use other people's data and we know some of it was destroyed and some was fudged.......
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Old 06-10-2014, 06:51 AM
 
Location: Del Rio, TN
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The effects of global warming have been quite obvious for thousands of years. Have you read about the ice age?
Don't bring science into this, you'll make their little heads hurt. The earth's temperature was fixed until AlGore made a movie.
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Old 06-10-2014, 06:52 AM
 
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The effects of global warming have been quite obvious for thousands of years. Have you read about the ice age?


Excuse me, but to clarify your confusion, the effects of man-made global warming have barely begun.
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Old 06-10-2014, 07:00 AM
 
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Try to get your information about climate science from peer-reviewed scientific journals, not random websites.
What good are peer-reviewed journals? I mean, that's sort of the entire point here, that nobody who disagrees with the global warming agenda is considered a reputable scientist. If you only accept information from reputable scientists and only scientists who agree with the existing theory are considered reputable, then what's the point? It's a self fulfilling prophecy type situation, where conclusions are arrived at by approved means and only means which arrive at those conclusions are approved.
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Old 06-10-2014, 07:10 AM
 
Location: Oklahoma
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What good are peer-reviewed journals? I mean, that's sort of the entire point here, that nobody who disagrees with the global warming agenda is considered a reputable scientist. If you only accept information from reputable scientists and only scientists who agree with the existing theory are considered reputable, then what's the point? It's a self fulfilling prophecy type situation, where conclusions are arrived at by approved means and only means which arrive at those conclusions are approved.
The anti AGW scientists don't do much research but here is a list of some of the skeptics who have had papers published.

Peer-reviewed papers by climate skeptics

http://www.skepticalscience.com/resources.php?peer=1
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Old 06-10-2014, 08:22 AM
 
Location: USA
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"If we were to double the rate at which CO2 in the atmosphere is increasing in comparison to the last 30 years, it would still take well over a century to get to just two degrees of warming from CO2. If we tripled the rate, it would take almost four centuries to get to three degrees."

CO2 is Logarithmic Explained | Knowledge Drift; The Science of Human Error
Um... no.

How can "the worst effects be behind us" when we're still dumping an ever-increasing amount of CO2 into the air? It's not as if every ton added beyond some point has zero effect, you know... Additionally, even if the temperature only goes up a few degrees, it can still have profound effects upon the climate and thus upon human civilization.

It never ceases to amaze me how the deniers are perfectly willing to play Russian roulette with human civilization if the alternative is their Hummer being more expensive to gas up and adding some solar panels to the roof.
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Old 06-10-2014, 02:31 PM
 
Location: Victoria, BC.
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That's obvious. He couldn't be a scientist if he does not agree with your agenda. Correct?
So you can't tell me who he is either, huh?
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Old 06-10-2014, 03:55 PM
 
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The effects of global warming have just barely begun.
You know this how?
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Old 06-10-2014, 03:57 PM
 
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Try to get your information about climate science from peer-reviewed scientific journals, not random websites.
And you try to get your information about climate science from those not politically motivated.

Good luck with that.
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Old 06-10-2014, 03:58 PM
 
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Excuse me, but to clarify your confusion, the effects of man-made global warming have barely begun.
And when you have facts, not theory, present them that man is warming the planet.
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