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Old 06-15-2014, 12:38 PM
 
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Stop being poor.

I did.

You acquired well-drilling skills?
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Old 06-15-2014, 12:41 PM
 
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The realities of life sometimes do not jibe well with ones own desires.
Conservatives will often look at the big picture and do what's best for their families future rather than indulge in selfish inclinations at the expense of loved ones.
If that means living in the Burbs for a while when I would prefer to be in the country, then so be it.
If one decides that it is best to live in one place and not another...... You see how saying you want to live somewhere that you don't think is best is just delusional fantasies?

This is a huge problem with conservatives too much delusional thinking.
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Old 06-15-2014, 12:49 PM
 
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Political Polarization and Personal Life | Pew Research Center for the People and the Press


It is an enduring stereotype – conservatives prefer suburban McMansions while liberals like urban enclaves – but one that is grounded in reality. Given the choice, three-quarters (75%) of consistent conservatives say they would opt to live in a community where “the houses are larger and farther apart, but schools, stores and restaurants are several miles away,” and just 22% say they’d choose to live where “the houses are smaller and closer to each other, but schools, stores and restaurants are within walking distance.” The preferences of consistent liberals are almost the exact inverse, with 77% preferring the smaller house closer to amenities, and just 21% opting for more square footage farther away.
It seems as if this is framed to be pro-liberal.

Liberal preferred areas are framed as positive: walk ability, community, fine with less.

Conservatives preferred areas are framed as more negative, rather than positive: selfish McMansions, selfish big yards, far away from other positives like schools...instead of wanting more nature, more quiet, less hustle and bustle.
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Old 06-15-2014, 12:53 PM
 
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As Americans we have to stop indulging conservatives in these fantasies.

At no other time in American history have so few Anericans lived in small towns and rural areas.

conservatives don't actually want to live in those places because the vast overwhelming majority of them don't live in those places.

As with most things conservatives, saying they want to live in small towns and rural areas is all about symbolism.

What in the conservative mind does small towns and rural areas represent?

I have a good idea of what they represent to conservatives, but that is the only rational discussion to be had.

To have this pretend discussion with conservatives about the virtues of living in places the vast overwhelming majority of conservatives do not live is to indulge their collective delusions and insanity.
I own a house in a rural small town so I hope they will keep indulging their fantasies of living in a small town. A few retirees move to the area but not enough. A lot of homes are vacant, the schools arent that great and there arent enough jobs. Half the store fronts on main street are vacant and its not going to get better. When gas hit $4.00 a gallon in 2008 and the recession hit, it hit the town double hard because no one will buy a house with a 25-60 mile commute and housing prices fell in half.

People have told me what the town looked like in the 50's. They will talk about a town where the streets were clean and neat, people didnt let weeds grow, the mowed the yards, their was pride of ownership, etc. Most of the kids left over the years. Very few ever return even if they have the resources. SS, Medicare, Snap, Federal jobs, tourism, and outside school funding seem to be the main source of income. Its a Republican town but relying on these voters seem to be a fools game for Republicans. Many in my town will be dead in 10 years.

One conservative area that has been successful area is the panhandle in Idaho that has attracted a lot of conservative retirees who have built nice homes. Most retirees really arent interested in moving into a small town that is struggling and with housing that needs a lot of work. A recent fire near here wiped out 50 homes. Only 10 home owners rebuilt the rest took the money and left.

The Republican Party's Fatal Attraction To Rural America - Forbes
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Old 06-15-2014, 03:02 PM
 
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You live in Essex County?

I can't think of any convenient cheap places for the help to live. The cheap help in Ridgewood live a stone's throw away in Paterson, but Mount Vernon isn't exactly next door to Chappaqua. Are the cheap help now living in White Plains and New Rochelle?
Wrong side of the river.

As for Chappaqua the cheap help lives just up the road in Mt Kisco, thousands of illegals sharing homes and breaking the community's back. Mt Kisco couldn't afford their police department anymore and had to let them merge with the Westchester County police department. They are begging the state for funds to help ease the merger.

There is nothing better than watching a bunch of holier than thou libs who've been fiercely pro-amnesty and passionately critical of anyone who had other ideas reaping the fruits of their political beliefs in reduced services and higher property taxes.

And it's only going to get worse as Obama opens the flood gates.

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Old 06-15-2014, 03:04 PM
 
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You acquired well-drilling skills?
Yes.....it wasn't easy.

But....really what I did was buy equipment......not fancy phones and toys.
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Old 06-15-2014, 03:07 PM
 
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It seems as if this is framed to be pro-liberal.

Liberal preferred areas are framed as positive: walk ability, community, fine with less.

Conservatives preferred areas are framed as more negative, rather than positive: selfish McMansions, selfish big yards, far away from other positives like schools...instead of wanting more nature, more quiet, less hustle and bustle.
We live 35 miles from town.

BTW....just how are McMansions and big yard selfish???

They put money into the economy.
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Old 06-15-2014, 05:41 PM
 
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Conservatives like to be alone with their ignorance.
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Old 06-15-2014, 06:13 PM
 
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My cousin once lived outside of Waterville, Maine and the nearest store was 10 minutes away. And the AM radio stations go off air at dusk.
They used to practically roll up the sidewalk at night, not so much now.
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Old 06-15-2014, 06:18 PM
 
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If it hasn't been said yet, is it any surprise that people who make money and live in big houses tend to vote Republican. Of course it is a broad generalization but so was much of that survey (as mentioned by other posters). But to each his own.
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