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Originally Posted by smittyjohnny38
So it's someone else's fault? LMFAO.. You guys are pathetic. Can you say "Political expedience"? That's why you and the clowns that represent you voted for Iraqi War authorization. Nice to have a backbone and conviction!
The Iraq War resolution passes 215 to 6 Among Republicans in the House of Representatives.
And 86-126( yes, the majority of Democrats actually voted against it, which actually destroys your argument).
Based on your post, you are saying Your Rep must be both a Republican and voted against it, may we ask who is he/she ? Because there are only 6 possible.
There were intelligence failures, granted, but Bush conflated the WMD threat to include nuclear, bio and chemical weapons. He lumped them all together into one perceived threat when there was none. He intimated that there were connections to Al Qaeda when there were none.
Do I hold Congress blameless in this? Hell no, I never did. But the CIC presented this case, the CIC ordered us into war with a country that was no threat to the US, and had no ties with the organization that actually was.
I challenge everyone on this forum to read the report on the link below. I was foresquare in Bush's corner until I did.
It examines the unclassified record of prewar intelligence, administration statements of Iraq’s capabilities to produce nuclear, biological, and chemical weapons and long-range missiles, and the evidence found to date in Iraq. It draws findings from this material and offers lessons and recommendations for the future.
In other words, you were duped again. Tell me why you would put one ounce of credibility on an analysis that was based 100% on UNCLASSIFIED documents? In other words, they used media and publically available documents instead of anything that might actually shed true light on the lead up to the war.
[font=AGaramond-Regular]In other words, you were duped again. Tell me why you would put one ounce of credibility on an analysis that was based 100% on UNCLASSIFIED documents?
My earlier assessment of you was correct. You're not worth arguing with.
Your earlier assessment of me is that you won't argue with me because you won't acknowledge that you were duped and you find no reason to blame anyone other than Republicans when its clear that Democrats (and yourself) are just as responsible for it.
As I posted above, naivete is something you might want to look into.
Your earlier assessment of me is that you won't argue with me because you won't acknowledge that you were duped and you find no reason to blame anyone other than Republicans when its clear that Democrats are just as responsible.
As I posted above, naivete is something you might want to look into.
Nope, my earlier assessment of you was correct. You don't have the cojones to go outside of your narrow little comfort zone and learn something.
Oh, and you may want to read my earlier post regarding Congress' culpability in Iraq.
Nope, my earlier assessment of you was correct. You don't have the cojones to go outside of your narrow little comfort zone and learn something.
Oh, and you may want to read my earlier post regarding Congress' culpability in Iraq.
Stay ignorant. It's your choice.
Your earlier post regarding Congress' culpability was your mea culpa ...your back tracking....for being called out for placing the blame directly on George W. Bush for the failed intelligence. Congress was absolutely as much to blame, but it wasn't until you were called out for it did you finally acknowledge that "Congress".....you notably left out "Democrats" as part of your partisan slobbering....was equally to blame.
And now you're trying to use that mea culpa as the basis for denying you were duped not once, but twice. Afterall, you just admitted that you relied on an analysis of PUBLICLY AVAILABLE, UNCLASSIFIED documents to forge your blame against Bush and Republicans.
Your earlier assessment of me is that you won't argue with me because you won't acknowledge that you were duped and you find no reason to blame anyone other than Republicans when its clear that Democrats (and yourself) are just as responsible for it.
As I posted above, naivete is something you might want to look into.
What you're saying is that the guy who is clinging to you in the water and drowning you is as responsible for your death as the guy who drove the boat into the rock to put you in the water to begin with.
Again, lots of blame to go around, for everyone. Generally the first rule of troubleshooting is to resolve the problem, then later on look at the root cause that started the problem. Usually there are an assload of engineers who tinkered with it before you got there, and solving their added problems are a must, but again, the root cause is the main issue that must be addressed.
Bush got us into Iraq, they either were completely stupid, or flat out lied about intelligence so we'd get there. Democrats voted for the authorization then, if everyone will remember, in 2003 you didn't question the President.
All of that is prologue, we need to discuss now. Later on we can learn lessons, like, don't go to war with countries for stupid reasons.
You seem to be forgetting that Bush lied about the grounds for invading Iraq.
Not at all. Read my posts.
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