Please register to participate in our discussions with 2 million other members - it's free and quick! Some forums can only be seen by registered members. After you create your account, you'll be able to customize options and access all our 15,000 new posts/day with fewer ads.
What are you ranting about?
Your post makes no sense whatsoever.
Ken
Here is what he is talking about;
Obama orders the Bush to go into the Persian Gulf, however, the Bush was already in the Persian Gulf as the US maintains a carrier presence there 24/7 365 days a year.
Khalifa bin Salman - This is in Bahrain, it is a port for ships to dock.
The USS Bush relieved the USS Truman in March.
It is a propaganda fail because Obama stated he "ordered" the USS Bush to the Gulf, when in fact it was already there. This "order" was to make Obama look tough or something.
Obama orders the Bush to go into the Persian Gulf, however, the Bush was already in the Persian Gulf as the US maintains a carrier presence there 24/7 365 days a year.
Khalifa bin Salman - This is in Bahrain, it is a port for ships to dock.
The USS Bush relieved the USS Truman in March.
It is a propaganda fail because Obama stated he "ordered" the USS Bush to the Gulf, when in fact it was already there. This "order" was to make Obama look tough or something.
The difference is, its being ordered close enough to more easily conduct airstrikes. And its not Obama ordering it. The article makes that clear incidentally. Its the Defense Secretary. I suppose you could argue as the head of our military he ordered it, but if you read the article it says NOTHING about Obama ordering it. Despite your statement, and the OP's.
The difference is, its being ordered close enough to more easily conduct airstrikes. And its not Obama ordering it. The article makes that clear incidentally. Its the Defense Secretary. I suppose you could argue as the head of our military he ordered it, but if you read the article it says NOTHING about Obama ordering it. Despite your statement, and the OP's.
Not only as head of the military, but Hagel as an appointee represents Obama, and the positioning of forces were likely discussed beforehand, though we will not know until Hagel retires and writes a book, but the normal process of positioning military assets is usually discussed with the CINC.
The article and others on it make it like it is an extraordinary step to position a carrier in the Gulf, when inf act the normal patrol area is the Gulf and Arabian Sea. While some articles correctly point out it is being repositioned from the Arabian Sea to the Gulf, other articles provide a bit of a spin as if the administration, with orders from Hagel, are ordering the carrier to the Gulf as if there is never a carrier there.
Not only as head of the military, but Hagel as an appointee represents Obama, and the positioning of forces were likely discussed beforehand, though we will not know until Hagel retires and writes a book, but the normal process of positioning military assets is usually discussed with the CINC.
The article and others on it make it like it is an extraordinary step to position a carrier in the Gulf, when inf act the normal patrol area is the Gulf and Arabian Sea. While some articles correctly point out it is being repositioned from the Arabian Sea to the Gulf, other articles provide a bit of a spin as if the administration, with orders from Hagel, are ordering the carrier to the Gulf as if there is never a carrier there.
In other words, they do something lots of news folks do-they sell an interesting story that may not relate the facts well. I don't think thats a propaganda play, just poor reporting for drama.
Now...lets get back to Bush skydiving in to Iraq to take the battle to those who oppose him!
Obama orders the Bush to go into the Persian Gulf, however, the Bush was already in the Persian Gulf as the US maintains a carrier presence there 24/7 365 days a year.
Khalifa bin Salman - This is in Bahrain, it is a port for ships to dock.
The USS Bush relieved the USS Truman in March.
It is a propaganda fail because Obama stated he "ordered" the USS Bush to the Gulf, when in fact it was already there. This "order" was to make Obama look tough or something.
How does he know where the Bush is? The 5th fleet area of responsibility is MUCH larger than the little Persian Gulf. It covers the Arabian Sea, the Gulf of Aden, the Red Sea AND the Persian Gulf. The Bush could have been ANYWHERE within that area. No one on this board - least of all Mircea - knows exactly WHERE within that area of responsibility the USS Bush is at any given time when it's at sea. The Bush could very well have been off Somalia at the time (a hot spot area that is ALSO within the 5th Fleet area of responsibility).
I think the Defense Secretary knows more about WHERE the USS Bush is at any given time than Mircea does. The wingnuts on this board just seem to write the first thing that comes off the top of their head without even giving it any thought whatsoever (and it SHOWS).
Geeze!!!!!
Ken
PS: Well, in doing a little bit of quick research it didn't take long to validate that apparently the USS Bush was in the Arabian Sea at the time it was ordered into the Persian Gulf. As I said, Mircea had NO CLUE where the USS Bush was - and apparently didn't even seem to realize that the 5th Fleet area of responsibility included MORE than just the Persian Gulf.
Last edited by LordBalfor; 06-20-2014 at 01:15 AM..
Please register to post and access all features of our very popular forum. It is free and quick. Over $68,000 in prizes has already been given out to active posters on our forum. Additional giveaways are planned.
Detailed information about all U.S. cities, counties, and zip codes on our site: City-data.com.
Please register to participate in our discussions with 2 million other members - it's free and quick! Some forums can only be seen by registered members. After you create your account, you'll be able to customize options and access all our 15,000 new posts/day with fewer ads.
