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Old 06-23-2014, 11:58 AM
 
Location: By the sea, by the sea, by the beautiful sea
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Still trying to figure out why we Americans should give a hoot about what happens to Iraq.
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'cause we broke it.


Then the question should be WHY did we break it, eh?
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Old 06-23-2014, 12:05 PM
 
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'cause we broke it.
Yes, we did, by going in with no idea of what to do once shock and awe was over. But there is no fixing it now, and I'm not willing to waste another single American life trying. Anything we do is just delaying the inevitable anyway. Time to let them have their civil war and determine their own destiny.
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Old 06-23-2014, 01:43 PM
 
Location: Southern California
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The prime minister of Iraq’s Kurdish region says he warned Baghdad and the United States months ago about the threat that a Sunni militant group posed to Iraq, but “nothing happened.”

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That was the correct response.

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Old 06-23-2014, 02:03 PM
 
Location: Ohio
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The prime minister of Iraq’s Kurdish region says he warned Baghdad and the United States months ago about the threat that a Sunni militant group posed to Iraq, but “nothing happened.”
So?

You are operating on the flawed assumption that the US wants peace and stability.

Did it ever occur to you that the US has no desire for peace and stability, since that would be contrary to US Geo-Political Strategy?

Well, now you have something new to think about.

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Why not... running is what they do... that's what they did in Desert Storm!
How would you know? You weren't there.

This might come as a total shock to you, but in order to engage threat forces, you must first know the location of threat forces.

The US had two satellites (that I was aware) parked in Geo-synchronous orbit over Iraq.

Using those two spy satellites, plus high altitude aerial recon, plus other methods of intelligence gathering, the US knew the exact precise pin-point location of every single Iraqi military unit.

How many spy satellites did Iraq have parked over Kuwait and Saudi Arabia relaying real-time images of the locations of Coalition Forces?

None.

The Iraqis found out the location of a Coalition Force unit when they were being fired upon by that unit.

If the US was in Ukraine, how would the US know where threat force were located?

The US would use spy satellites.....right up the point when Russian ASATs blew them out of the sky.

Now what?

Now your big technological advantage has been eliminated and you're in the same boat everyone else is, that's what.

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Then the question should be WHY did we break it, eh?
So you could steal their wealth and resources.

Historically...

Mircea
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Old 06-23-2014, 02:06 PM
 
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So you could steal their wealth and resources.

Historically...

Mircea

The most recent history of sticking our nose where it didn't belong in Vietnam would seem to say NOPE!

And just what wealth and resources have we stolen from Iraq?
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Old 06-23-2014, 02:08 PM
 
Location: Bel Air, California
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I imagine the warning and subsequent US reaction will look something like this...


i warned you - YouTube
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Old 06-23-2014, 02:42 PM
 
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The prime minister of Iraq’s Kurdish region says he warned Baghdad and the United States months ago about the threat that a Sunni militant group posed to Iraq, but “nothing happened.”

Kurdistan's Prime Minister: We Warned U.S. About ISIS in Iraq Months Ago - NBC News
Well, when you elect a community organizer who said in his book that he spent the last 2 years of high school smoking weed on the beach in Hawaii.....er....nuff said.....
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Old 06-23-2014, 02:48 PM
 
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Well, when you elect a community organizer who said in his book that he spent the last 2 years of high school smoking weed on the beach in Hawaii.....er....nuff said.....
Well, if smoking weed on the beach makes you averse to wasting American blood and taxpayer $$$ in lame attempts to fight the wars of others I say Don't Bogart that joint!
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Old 06-23-2014, 02:50 PM
 
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The prime minister of Iraq’s Kurdish region says he warned Baghdad and the United States months ago about the threat that a Sunni militant group posed to Iraq, but “nothing happened.”

Kurdistan's Prime Minister: We Warned U.S. About ISIS in Iraq Months Ago - NBC News
Even though we knew about it our options were very small.
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Old 06-23-2014, 02:57 PM
 
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Even though we knew about it our options were very small.
And at any rate it should be the responsibility of the Iraqi government and army.
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