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I'm curious. Do you "pitch in", Rambler? Are you paying full price for your annual health insurance premiums, without subsidies?
Thanks for missing the point completely.
We are all "pitching in" and healthcare is always subsidized to some level.
The point is that these nuts were upset that the poor paid nothing... and then were upset when the poor had to pay something... in the end, they are just upset that the poor can afford health care - the horror!
So those people getting their expensive ObamaCare premiums paid for with taxpayer subsides is not resulting in million more people getting a free ride???
Pfffftt... They were getting a free ride in the first in the first place. All the ACA does is force them to at least pay something into the pot vs. nothing at all.
We are all "pitching in" and healthcare is always subsidized to some level.
The point is that these nuts were upset that the poor paid nothing... and then were upset when the poor had to pay something... in the end, they are just upset that the poor can afford health care - the horror!
We are all "pitching in" and healthcare is always subsidized to some level.
The point is that these nuts were upset that the poor paid nothing... and then were upset when the poor had to pay something... in the end, they are just upset that the poor can afford health care - the horror!
Thanks for missing the question completely. So how much of a subsidy are we now paying towards your health care?
Pfffftt... They were getting a free ride in the first in the first place. All the ACA does is force them to at least pay something into the pot vs. nothing at all.
The only people forced by the ACA to pay anything are those of us who are paying for your coverage now. The people who didn't have coverage before aren't "forced" to pay anything, they're still skirting by without any consequences. The only difference is now the insurance companies are getting richer.
No, smart guy. I have a special secret "Obama fan club card" that magically makes it so I don't have to even pay the minimum Obamacare payment... only available to "liberals" who believe in facts, so don't bother applying for one...
Are you really that insane? I pay whatever the healthcare plan requires, so, yes, I "pitch in," like everyone else. Do you "pitch in?" Geez... talk about people missing the point.
Let me spell it out for you: The right-wing loons were angry that the poor got free health-care before, and now are angry that the poor have to pay to get healthcare, which makes no sense... and, of course "Obama care is going to make everything far more expensive" except it didn't... Does that help?
Exactly. I worked with these type of right-wing lunatics for years, and they were a joke.
On the one hand, they'd rant and rave about "those people" - except they'd use the n-word - in the "ghetto" who "didn't pay a dime and got free healthcare and stuff!"
Then, the ACA passes, which forces everyone to pitch in, and now the right-wing stooges are angry about that, despite the ACA eliminating the "free ride" they so hated.
Of course, when it comes right down to it, what they really hated was that the poor and "those people" might be able to afford health care, and - worse! - some of THEIR money might go to help "those people," and they just hated that and were very vocal about hating it!
These are the same clowns that gave me a KKK recruitment speech, think the 1st Amendment covers lynching people, and can't go a week without blaming the "n-words" for ruining "mericah!" so what else is to be expected...
The final irony? The company's health care premiums went up LESS the first year into the ACA than in any previous year in a long, long time... but Obama is still "the worst president ever" and the whining continues...
This is exactly the conclusion the article draws. It's the argument we hear Conservatives make again and again about using "other people's money" to pay for the subsidies. When, in fact:
"People who get employer-sponsored insurance also get their coverage paid for with “other peoples’ money.” The difference is that employer-sponsored insurance uses a tax deduction, which gives the largest benefits to those who earn the most money, as opposed to Obamacare’s sliding scale tax credit, which gives the most to those who earn the least."
You have nailed it. It's all about the "undeserving poor." And we know what that is code for.
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You can bet he's getting a nice subsidy (mailbox money) now.
Are you embarrassed that other people are now being forced to pay for your health coverage? 
