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"Should be paid" is a the liberal "feelings" argument.
i.e - "We feel dishwashers should make $60,000 a year! It doesn't make economic sense, and we'll chase businesses out of the city if we do this, but it just seems right."
And your proof to back up this claim? You are just assuming everyone that works for a union is liberal and that is incorrect. That would be like assuming everyone in a blue state is a liberal.
You're making the same mistake as Fox Terrier (not surprised). I'm talking about the organization and it's goals. That's very transparent, Unions are liberal strongholds. Individuals don't matter when an org is 400,000 people strong.
i.e - The U.S is a democracy and believes in ideas formed of democracy. Yet, urbanlife is a socialist. Does that mean the U.S is socialist?
Should this, should that, the world is full of should for everyone. If a specific skill set does not pay enough it is up to you to improve your skills. It is not the responsibility of someone else to increase to your definition of "should".
Nice deflection, give me a number on how much a dishwasher is worth in Seattle?
Iraq Resolution: Authorization for Use of Military Force Against Iraq Resolution of 2002, Public Law No: 107-243
House of Representatives
Democratic YES Votes - 82. 40% of 209 Democratic Representatives voted for the resolution.
US Senate
Democratic YES Votes - 29. 58% of Democratic senators (29 of 50) voted for the resolution.
You want to take your foot out of your mouth or should I?
I know the democrats voted for it, too. They were just as wrong and stupid as the republicans.
Obama isn't doing well with Iraq, but the point is that no one could do well with it. It was a failure from the outset because the premise for success was completely stupid. And if the Bush admin had opposed it instead of pushed heavily for it, there is a good chance it would not have occurred.
How do you know if s dishwasher is worth less than $15 if you don't know how much a dishwasher is worth?
Irrelevant to my point.
If they are worth $15 then they will be paid $15, if they are worth $10 they will be paid $10. If they are worth $20, they will be paid $20. In a healthy business environment, the market sets that wage, not some artificial support.
You're making the same mistake as Fox Terrier (not surprised). I'm talking about the organization and it's goals. That's very transparent, Unions are liberal strongholds. Individuals don't matter when an org is 400,000 people strong.
i.e - The U.S is a democracy and believes in ideas formed of democracy. Yet, urbanlife is a socialist. Does that mean the U.S is socialist?
Seriously, did you graduate from high school?
And you assuming everyone working for a union is liberal is a careless mistake.
Yes I did graduate from high school as well as college, did you? Not sure what this off topic question has to do with this thread though.
I know the democrats voted for it, too. They were just as wrong and stupid as the republicans.
Obama isn't doing well with Iraq, but the point is that no one could do well with it. It was a failure from the outset because the premise for success was completely stupid. And if the Bush admin had opposed it instead of pushed heavily for it, there is a good chance it would not have occurred.
Obama isn't doing well, but he could be doing better if he had listened to conservatives who predicted that this exact thing would happen in Iraq.
I said an answer based on something objective, not your personal feelings. Just because you believe something was worth "X" 50 years ago, doesn't mean it's worth the same today.[/Quote That's ludicrous and borderline ignorant. 50 years ago, a VCR cost in inflation adjusted dollars about $200. Should VCR's sell for $200 today? That's such an idiotic piece of logic.
Yes. Your logic is idiotic. It also has nothing to do with anything I said. I was talking about what work was worth, not the cost of goods.
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Now, let's talk about facts here (instead of your feelings).
Why should I want to talk to you? Is there something in it for me? Should I care what you think about minimum wage earners? Why? No, I understand that you're upset because a minimum wage is not consistent with some ideology you follow, but I don't care about any of that at all. Okay, you're sad because a minimum wage contradicts your libertarian dogma. I can live with that.
If they are worth $15 then they will be paid $15, if they are worth $10 they will be paid $10. If they are worth $20, they will be paid $20. In a healthy business environment, the market sets that wage, not some artificial support.
So basically you have no idea what they are worth, but you assume it is less than $15. Is that because you "feel" they are worth less?
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