Welcome to City-Data.com Forum!
U.S. CitiesCity-Data Forum Index
Go Back   City-Data Forum > General Forums > Politics and Other Controversies
 [Register]
Please register to participate in our discussions with 2 million other members - it's free and quick! Some forums can only be seen by registered members. After you create your account, you'll be able to customize options and access all our 15,000 new posts/day with fewer ads.
View detailed profile (Advanced) or search
site with Google Custom Search

Search Forums  (Advanced)
Reply Start New Thread
 
Old 07-06-2014, 03:37 PM
 
6,675 posts, read 4,278,056 times
Reputation: 8441

Advertisements

I think this article sums it up. More states are looking for ways to seize guns.

States look to gun seizure law after mass killings
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message

 
Old 07-06-2014, 03:47 PM
 
1,806 posts, read 1,737,663 times
Reputation: 988
...and it's great to see you think that this is such a great thing. It's obvious by posting that you fully support the states in this issue.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 07-06-2014, 04:03 PM
 
Location: Billings, MT
9,884 posts, read 10,975,748 times
Reputation: 14180
SUCH LAWS ARE TOO EASILY ABUSED!

Both by law enforcement and your neighbors!

It reminds me of "Code Enforcement" that is complaint driven. If there are no complaints, the weed and trash codes will never be enforced. If there is a complaint, then and only then will anything be done.
I don't want my neighbor to have that kind of power over me!
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 07-06-2014, 04:04 PM
 
1,806 posts, read 1,737,663 times
Reputation: 988
Talk to Mike there. He's strongly in support of these laws. I'm sure he can counter your arguments.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 07-06-2014, 04:09 PM
 
Location: Oklahoma
17,798 posts, read 13,692,692 times
Reputation: 17830
Quote:
Originally Posted by remoddahouse View Post
Talk to Mike there. He's strongly in support of these laws. I'm sure he can counter your arguments.

Maybe they should do it like they do drunk drivers. After your 3rd mass shooting they take your guns away?
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 07-06-2014, 04:11 PM
 
Location: Stasis
15,823 posts, read 12,465,032 times
Reputation: 8599
Temporarily seizing guns, via a court order, from mentally unstable people. Makes sense if there are proper standards & safeguards to establishing a case.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 07-06-2014, 04:15 PM
 
Location: Santa Monica
36,853 posts, read 17,363,818 times
Reputation: 14459
Connecticut's law allows judges to order guns temporarily seized after police present evidence that a person is a danger to themselves or others. A court hearing must be held within 14 days to determine whether to return the guns or authorize the state to hold them for up to a year.

Sounds vague and reliant upon government judgement. Golly gee, sign me up!
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 07-06-2014, 04:15 PM
 
Location: Dublin, CA
3,807 posts, read 4,275,649 times
Reputation: 3984
Extremely bad idea. As a police officer, I am telling you these laws will be abused. You will seize guns from persons who really don't meet the criteria, just because you are afraid if you don't, what the civil liability will be.

This country is headed down an extremely deadly path.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 07-06-2014, 04:16 PM
 
Location: Austin
15,636 posts, read 10,390,278 times
Reputation: 19525
I can't tell you how many times I have read here on CD that the only ones talking about gun confiscation are the paranoid "Tea Baggers", certainly not Democrats. "Trust us", the liberals say to the skeptical among us.

No, we don't trust you, Liberals.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 07-06-2014, 04:23 PM
 
Location: Itinerant
8,278 posts, read 6,275,241 times
Reputation: 6681
The quote that's funny (but in reality quite a scary perspective) is by the police chief

Quote:
"With all that we see in the news day after day, particular after Newtown, I think departments are more aware of what authority they have ... and they're using the tool (gun seizure warrants) more frequently than in the past," said South Windsor Police Chief Matthew Reed. "We always look at it from the other side. What if we don't seize the guns?"
That thought process taken to it's logical conclusion, if they're honest, everyone should be arrested, because if you look at it from the other side, they're all potential perpetrators, what if they don't arrest granny with her walker, she might kill someone, she can be released later when she's cleared herself of any planned wrongdoing. The dog on the sidewalk on the leash, that could maul a small child, we'll restrain it (or kill it) what if we're right, and we do nothing. That motorist leaving the store with some bottles in his bag, he could be potentially DUI, we better check it out and make sure he's not drunk, and that the bottles are not liquor, if we don't he might kill some kids on the playground when he misses a turn.

Simple solution is not to seize the guns, take the person who the complaint is leveled at in for evaluation and full due process. If he's evaluated and not found to be a threat, he leaves, no need to confiscate any of his property (if he's in custody he has no access to it). If he's a threat, then either treat him, or retain him in custody until he's not a threat.

Let's be honest here, if a person is such a threat that it's necessary to temporarily relieve them of their property, then they're sufficient threat to take into custody.
__________________
My mod posts will always be in red.
The Rules • Infractions & Deletions • Who's the moderator? • FAQ • What is a "Personal Attack" • What is "Trolling" • Guidelines for copyrighted material.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Please register to post and access all features of our very popular forum. It is free and quick. Over $68,000 in prizes has already been given out to active posters on our forum. Additional giveaways are planned.

Detailed information about all U.S. cities, counties, and zip codes on our site: City-data.com.


Reply
Please update this thread with any new information or opinions. This open thread is still read by thousands of people, so we encourage all additional points of view.

Quick Reply
Message:


Over $104,000 in prizes was already given out to active posters on our forum and additional giveaways are planned!

Go Back   City-Data Forum > General Forums > Politics and Other Controversies
Similar Threads

All times are GMT -6.

© 2005-2024, Advameg, Inc. · Please obey Forum Rules · Terms of Use and Privacy Policy · Bug Bounty

City-Data.com - Contact Us - Archive 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, 13, 14, 15, 16, 17, 18, 19, 20, 21, 22, 23, 24, 25, 26, 27, 28, 29, 30, 31, 32, 33, 34, 35, 36, 37 - Top