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Old 08-07-2014, 02:30 PM
 
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Its not the wars and its not the cost of military hardware. Its the cost of pay and benefits and the disability claims that go on until the veteran dies. At one time the VA aka Veterans Affairs was under the DOD but under President Reagan it was split off. The average pay and benefits for a service person is $92,000 per year. For the average Veteran it is over $8,000 a year times 20 million or $160 billion.. Our Defense Budget is $820 billion and half goes to pay, benefits, disablity, VA, VA medical, etc.

Hers is an article from the Los Angeles Times that show how a Veteran triple dips and collects $70,000 a year from the government.

Read the full article and figure out how much you are paying for triple dipping.

url=http://www.latimes.com/local/la-me-veterans-disability-20140713-story.html#page=1]With U.S. encouragement, VA disability claims rise sharply - Lrl][u][/U
A Times[/u

http://www.latimes.com/local/la-me-p...ry.html#page=1

Here's another article from the LA Times. We now have 45% of veterans leaving service applying for disability and almost every single one getting their disability claim approved. Guess who is paying for the disabilities which last from the day they retire until they are dead? Has the Tea Party ever though about the explosive VA budget? Probably not they are too worried about the guy down the street paying taxes and collecting a WIC benefit.

With U.S. encouragement, VA disability claims rise sharply - LA Times

 
Old 08-07-2014, 02:32 PM
 
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End the wars......a huge cut in the disabled.
 
Old 08-07-2014, 02:39 PM
 
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End the wars......a huge cut in the disabled.
I agree, the only way now to cut costs will be a drastic downsizing of the military. The average guy who lives in an apartment with a wife and kid struggles at $700 per month. The local base pays allowance of $1600 per month...who pays for that?
 
Old 08-07-2014, 02:52 PM
 
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I agree, the only way now to cut costs will be a drastic downsizing of the military. The average guy who lives in an apartment with a wife and kid struggles at $700 per month. The local base pays allowance of $1600 per month...who pays for that?
Where do you get your figures?

Because they seem grossly inflated.
 
Old 08-07-2014, 03:09 PM
 
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Tell Obama. He's trying to start wars with Russia and China.

If you think military spending is expensive now, wait til the Idiot in Chief is through.
 
Old 08-07-2014, 03:19 PM
 
Location: Pensacola, Florida
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Originally Posted by borregokid View Post
Its not the wars and its not the cost of military hardware. Its the cost of pay and benefits and the disability claims that go on until the veteran dies. At one time the VA aka Veterans Affairs was under the DOD but under President Reagan it was split off. The average pay and benefits for a service person is $92,000 per year. For the average Veteran it is over $8,000 a year times 20 million or $160 billion.. Our Defense Budget is $820 billion and half goes to pay, benefits, disablity, VA, VA medical, etc.

Hers is an article from the Los Angeles Times that show how a Veteran triple dips and collects $70,000 a year from the government.

Read the full article and figure out how much you are paying for triple dipping.

url=http://www.latimes.com/local/la-me-veterans-disability-20140713-story.html#page=1]With U.S. encouragement, VA disability claims rise sharply - Lrl][u][/U
A Times[/u

As disability awards grow, so do concerns with veracity of PTSD claims - LA Times

Here's another article from the LA Times. We now have 45% of veterans leaving service applying for disability and almost every single one getting their disability claim approved. Guess who is paying for the disabilities which last from the day they retire until they are dead? Has the Tea Party ever though about the explosive VA budget? Probably not they are too worried about the guy down the street paying taxes and collecting a WIC benefit.

With U.S. encouragement, VA disability claims rise sharply - LA Times
There's a whole lot of folks get hurt in the military. Many more than get hurt in industry. If you get hurt on the job in industry, you receive worker's compensation. If you are totally disabled you usually receive a cash sum plus a permanent disability income. The military are government employees in the real sense and entitled to the same disability benefits you enjoy through your own employment. As far as the other benefits the military provides, many are there to entice enlistment and to retain experienced personnel. You wanted an all-volunteer Army. The Army and Marine Corps are the most prone to get killed or maimed. Pay them or re-institute the Draft.
 
Old 08-07-2014, 03:24 PM
 
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Imagine if government were granted the power to spend money to make sure we eat right, have housing, have medicine... I mean, look how hard it is to get government to be responsible with even the most essential of government duties... and you want it to do vastly more things, all of which it act equally irresponsible.

It's as if you said "wow, these people waste money in unbelievable ways, I need them to spend more of my money for me!"
 
Old 08-07-2014, 03:29 PM
 
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There's a whole lot of folks get hurt in the military. Many more than get hurt in industry. If you get hurt on the job in industry, you receive worker's compensation. If you are totally disabled you usually receive a cash sum plus a permanent disability income. The military are government employees in the real sense and entitled to the same disability benefits you enjoy through your own employment. As far as the other benefits the military provides, many are there to entice enlistment and to retain experienced personnel. You wanted an all-volunteer Army. The Army and Marine Corps are the most prone to get killed or maimed. Pay them or re-institute the Draft.
Or get them out of harms way. You don't have to fix what you don't break.
 
Old 08-07-2014, 03:35 PM
 
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How about we get welfare spending under control too?
 
Old 08-07-2014, 03:37 PM
 
Location: By the sea, by the sea, by the beautiful sea
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This Is Why Its So Hard to Get Defense Spending Under Control

The wars costing so much in blood and $$$ have nothing to do with defense.
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