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Old 07-11-2014, 05:33 AM
 
Location: The Republic of Texas
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An armed society, is a polite society.

Someone was not polite to the guy, evidently



Maybe this was an honor killing?

 
Old 07-11-2014, 05:36 AM
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What "gun control" law would have prevented this event from occurring? Most of the gun control advocates are focused on rifles, not the most poweful rifles, just the scary looking black rifles. However, the vast majority of gun deaths occur with a handgun and between people involved in gangs/drugs. So I ask once again, what law would have prevented the shootings?
Really?

Would you care to back that up with facts?

I wasn't aware that restrictions on magazine size and the outlandish idea of doing a background check before arming someone were limited to "scary looking black rifles."


But really, you're right that a gun control law wouldn't have stopped this. The country has a culture problem (that gun nuts fully embrace) that says the way to solve problems is to start shooting. Events like this aren't going to end until people change that.
 
Old 07-11-2014, 06:03 AM
 
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Really?

Would you care to back that up with facts?

I wasn't aware that restrictions on magazine size and the outlandish idea of doing a background check before arming someone were limited to "scary looking black rifles."


But really, you're right that a gun control law wouldn't have stopped this. The country has a culture problem (that gun nuts fully embrace) that says the way to solve problems is to start shooting. Events like this aren't going to end until people change that.
Oh for damn sakes man...between rifles and shotguns they kill less than 1000 people and pistols are 5000+ deaths ...

Why back ground checks? Hell even ole joe says they don't have time to prosecute those that were known to lie on the 4473....

So, the lefts thought is...make more laws that will not be enforced...yea...that will work...
 
Old 07-11-2014, 06:05 AM
 
Location: Londonderry, NH
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Apparently this murderer was not a good enough guy that his wife would stay with him. Look like he was so angry over her impertinence that he interrogated and killed these people when they could not tell this criminal bad guy where she as.

He should be charged with mass murder, tried and punished as appropriate.
 
Old 07-11-2014, 06:09 AM
 
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I am highly disappointed that he made it out of the cul de sac alive.

I also do not understand why the adults in the house allowed themselves to be bound and placed facedown on the floor, and allowing the same for their children. I know with every atom in me that I would have attacked him - that is SAFER than lining up all ready for execution!

As for the political and gun control aspect... essentially no one wants to ban the type of gun that he used. If you are going to do an "I told you so," at least be intellectually honest.
 
Old 07-11-2014, 06:57 AM
 
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Yes, I forgot we need a proper period of mourning before we can talk about anything related to gun control...Lets mourn those who are dead and their brains who are splattered where they fell. After at least 30 days of mourning then we can talk about gun control
Why does everything goes back to gun control? I didn't see you jumping out when some guy whacked his whole family with a hammer.
 
Old 07-11-2014, 06:58 AM
 
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Of course. Every mass killing with a gun brings the issue front and center. Especially when there is an active movement in Texas, no less, to go around brandishing firearms in every public and commercial space for the sole reason to get people used to having guns in their faces everywhere they go.

The OP's point is valid. According to the radical gun advocates, anybody with a gun is your friend and you shouldn't fear him until he pulls it out and blows your head off. Then he was mentally deficient and you should have been carrying also so you could have adequately defended yourself.

I think that really is the gist of it?
I get the gist of it.....the problem here is that there isn't an honest discussion going on from either side.

You have extreme gun-nuts like you correctly describe but then you have people like the OP and Huffpo who use these events not to target the gun-nuts but also bad people like yourself too.

They don't even have facts about the guys history, mental state, how he got the gun....nothing. Just a nice tidy group of dead people including children and it was like....jackpot!

Double bonus for it happening in a "red state", they love that.

If you just watched the media you'd think these were the majority of killings when the reality is that most are gang\drug related with illegal wheapons...but that doesn't fit the storyline.
 
Old 07-11-2014, 10:23 AM
 
Location: SoCal/PHX/HHI
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What "gun control" law would have prevented this event from occurring? Most of the gun control advocates are focused on rifles, not the most poweful rifles, just the scary looking black rifles. However, the vast majority of gun deaths occur with a handgun and between people involved in gangs/drugs. So I ask once again, what law would have prevented the shootings?
None, good post.
 
Old 07-11-2014, 10:32 AM
 
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None, good post.
This should easily do the trick:

Gun Free Zone - YouTube
 
Old 07-11-2014, 10:38 AM
 
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This was in Springs, Texas where the good guy Ron Haskell decided to be the bad guy with a gun. He shot and killed six relatives before being chased down and surrendering to the police. I guess Open Carry Texas has a point...the more guns the less murder.

Ronald Lee Haskell Charged In Texas Shooting That Left 6 Dead, Including 4 Children
The thread title is a complete lie...who woulda thunk a anti-gunner would lie....

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According to the Cache County Sheriff's Office, Haskell has had several involvements with the Logan City Police Department and was incarcerated in the Cache County Jail in 2008.
LOL...There goes the "good guy" theory....

But don't worry about facts...

Violent past of alleged mass shooting gunman Ronald Lee Haskell | News - Home

Maybe a little research on the OPs part would help a little...before posting crap!!

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Melannie Haskell told police her husband dragged her out of their bedroom by her hair and hit her in the side of the head.
In 2009, Haskell told police that his wife had left and he believed she was going to harm herself. He followed up, and said he found his wife and was taking her to the hospital, records show.
Then, a year ago, Melannie Haskell filed for an order of protection against him. A judge granted the order, and she filed for divorce the following month.
Ron Lee Haskell, Charged In Texas Massacre, Had Previous Domestic Violence Arrest
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