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Conservatives don't have a purpose... they believe in an ideology. Conservatism today has been brainwashed by corporations into sanctioning ideological class warfare. Corporations can do no wrong. The rich can do no wrong. Money trumps everything.
And you think liberals don't believe in an ideology? You think liberals are somehow more practical or reasonable? There is no evidence of that.
I really hate to generalize what liberals believe. But their actions clearly show they believe that personal responsibility (and the liberty that comes with it) is unimportant and that government should be the entity that people look to for their stability and happiness.
If you believe this then this is true: The purpose of Conservatives is to create surfdom to Corporations by giving the entity the ability to dictate how free people can think and act on their own. To give entities the same rights as the people and to put them above the people with lower tax rates. To allow Corporations to self regulate and to have no responsibility to the society which supports them.
A real conservative (as opposed to the media caricature of one) understands that regulations are required for many aspects of business. I don't trust an energy company to not pollute so that must be regulated.
How does a company "dictate how free people can think and act on their own?"
And you think liberals don't believe in an ideology? You think liberals are somehow more practical or reasonable? There is no evidence of that.
On the contrary. Liberals have always been right on historical issues. Conservatives have always been wrong.
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Originally Posted by hoffdano
I really hate to generalize what liberals believe. But their actions clearly show they believe that personal responsibility (and the liberty that comes with it) is unimportant and that government should be the entity that people look to for their stability and happiness.
Strawman.
I don't know any liberal that believes the government is a source of happiness.
Too bad this thread is turning into the usual partisan drivel of conservatives are bad and liberals are good and vice a verse. This could be a interesting thread with different view points on job insecurity.
I have retired and because of some shrewd choice of employers and finances I am no longer anyone's prostitute. I could be rented but was never bought.
I might have enjoyed working for myself and my customers but I never had the capital or the backing to start my own business. Instead I considered my employers my customers and traded time and skill for money and benefits.
Now if we wish to discuss job availability and security we can do so. I believe our parents had excellent job security in major industry post WW2 as most of the big employers were price regulated monopolies or colluded in sharing the markets. Most non managerial workers were in unions with decent pay and benefits unless you didn't fit the classist or raciest demographics. The businesses could afford this because they were oligopolies.
My generation started to lose this security as technology changed the manufacturing markets. In addition our foreign policy of reindustrializing Europe and Japan while protecting French and British colonies resulted in competition in the automobile oligopoly (Big Three) and wasting our money and men in Vietnam. The economic effect of that war resulted in few good and secure jobs. Of my friends I know of two that worked for the same company for over forty years . Both of those companies were defense contractors. A few others worked for Ma Bell or Digital. They did not have secure careers.
Now we have a severe form of global competition in fields we had monopolized. Anyone with the capital can set up an automated car production line anywhere. Same applies to commercial airplanes or ships. We even import raw steel from our arch competitor - China.
We are even losing our IT and computing advantage. This list is a lot longer.
I think we should restrict access to our technology and place countervailing tariffs on all imports to eliminate the price advantages derived from lower labor costs, lower interest rates, government subsidy and monopoly. We could also require raw materials (steel and aluminum)meet the same quality standards as domestic production. This just might reduce the unfair aspect of the world trade situation we are losing.
If you have a student loan the OP is correct. You have to pay off that student loan because it can not be claimed in bankruptcy. You are a wage slave until you pay it off and when you do you have earned your freedom. Now with that said, if you owed a huge amount would you have job insecurity? would you push your employer for higher wages in a saturated job market? Do you feel a threat on gvt policy handing out visas to foreigners in your field?
Imagine that. Greenspan attributed job insecurity to global competition, decline in private sector unionization and technology 17 years ago. Did he not know it was all Obama's fault?
Most of those countries that consistently outperform the US substantially subsidize university education for qualified students. Teaching carries more prestige than other professions compared to the US where it seems half the country views teaching as leaching.
No two nations take the same approach towards education. The common thread seems to be that populations are less diverse, the families generally make certain their children put forth substantially more time and effort than is typical in the US.and the kids likely have never heard of Honey Boo Boo or care about Kardasians.
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