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Old 08-12-2014, 08:40 AM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
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Though no one can actually give any specific evidence to any of it. You keep parroting Fox News though. So original.
Go read the monthly BLS reports instead of relying on just the snippets the MSM puts out.
The BLS reports are full of numbers.
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Old 08-12-2014, 08:41 AM
 
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No it doesn't. Large companies (>50) already provided health care. Smaller companies aren't required under the ACA to provide health care. Their employees can go on the exchange, which has nothing to do with the companies labor expenses (it actually would lower it).
So you claim an individual working 29 hours a week will make as much in wages as he would have were he working 40 hours per week. I didn't know that. Even large companies will be dropping their employer sponsored health insurance. But not to worry - after this November it will all be solved.
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Old 08-12-2014, 08:46 AM
 
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Maybe someone should read the report instead of a small piece taken out by Breitbart. It turns out the top 5% of income earners are doing quite well. Isnt this what Republicans should be cheering about? Wages are down 23% but thats for the sector where people who lost jobs and then came back or replaced at a lower wage. A lot of this was in the construction industry where guys were making $25 an hour or more and came back in at $17 an hour or less after being out of work for a year or more.

http://www.usmayors.org/pressrelease...conwagegap.pdf
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Old 08-12-2014, 08:51 AM
 
Location: Texas
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Anyone who takes breitbart for fact is probably beyond help.
The other part of the equation is just as important. Costs have risen dramatically. Since the year 2000 average costs of goods have skyrocketed. Automobiles have risen 55 percent, ground beef 98 percent, stamps 48 percent, eggs 106 percent, rent 40 percent, gallon of gas 176 percent.
THE FOURTEEN YEAR RECESSION « The Burning Platform
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Old 08-12-2014, 08:52 AM
 
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So you claim an individual working 29 hours a week will make as much in wages as he would have were he working 40 hours per week. I didn't know that. Even large companies will be dropping their employer sponsored health insurance. But not to worry - after this November it will all be solved.
It's unlikely that large companies would drop healthcare. They would just end up paying people more to obtain their own and would then have to pay FICA taxes.

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This is the 2nd school year now and they still haven't decided.
My second school is going automated this year. The first school did last year.
This way they have a computer record of how many hours and can just block you from signing up for a job when you hit 29 hours. That really means subs with no insurance can only work 3 days a week.
I was talking about the full time definition in the ACA.

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I'm not sure this is true, at least not on a per hour basis. I've seen numbers that show that France (of all places) has the most productive workers on a per hour basis...they just have 35-hour work weeks.
It seems you're right.

Germany #1
France #2
USA #3

http://www.inc.com/jessica-stillman/...e-workers.html
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Old 08-12-2014, 08:52 AM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
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The other part of the equation is just as important. Costs have risen dramatically. Since the year 2000 average costs of goods have skyrocketed. Automobiles have risen 55 percent, ground beef 98 percent, stamps 48 percent, eggs 106 percent, rent 40 percent, gallon of gas 176 percent.
THE FOURTEEN YEAR RECESSION « The Burning Platform
But the government doesn't count that for inflation so it stays at a nice low 2%
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Old 08-12-2014, 08:56 AM
 
Location: Texas
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But the government doesn't count that for inflation so it stays at a nice low 2%
I was going to add concerning that chart. Who determines the inflation and how? Gee it couldn't be the ones who are in charge of controlling inflation, they wouldn't cook the books would they? We all know what a ruse CPI is, well at least the ones who don't have their head buried in the sand.

It's simple, compare income and costs without adjusting anything. Not to hard to figure out if income goes up 15 percent and costs rise 40 percent we loose.
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Old 08-12-2014, 09:05 AM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
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It's unlikely that large companies would drop healthcare. They would just end up paying people more to obtain their own and would then have to pay FICA taxes.



I was talking about the full time definition in the ACA.



It seems you're right.

Germany #1
France #2
USA #3

http://www.inc.com/jessica-stillman/...e-workers.html
So was I. Flexible employees don't necessarily work 30 hours each week to be classified as full time.
But according to the ACA the week they work 30 hours they are entitled to employer provided healthcare or the employer must pay the fine.

Obamacare didn't take flexible employees into account.
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Old 08-12-2014, 09:07 AM
 
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So was I. Flexible employees don't necessarily work 30 hours each week to be classified as full time.
But according to the ACA the week they work 30 hours they are entitled to employer provided healthcare or the employer must pay the fine.

Obamacare didn't take flexible employees into account.
Obamacare did not take MANY things into account.

Like assets.....not just income.
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Old 08-12-2014, 09:17 AM
 
Location: Barrington
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Well people seem to think he directly controls Wall Street and thank him when the stock market goes up so why shouldn't they think he controls wages ?

People also thought Bush was directly responsible for the RE bust so why shouldn't people think Obama is directly responsible for lowered wages ?
Seems a lot of people perceive presidents are responsible for anything and everything that happens everywhere.
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